Anyone ever seen this? "Cowbell" Submission

While rolling, this came about when one of my students with a fairly good wrestling base (and little JJ) kept sitting up on me when I was trying to finish my omoplata. I have pretty good flexibility, so this came about. I asked around, looked around...and to date, have yet to see a submission like this.

The percentages on pulling it off when someone knows how to defend properly, are fairly low, but I've managed to hit it at near 100% when a guy sits up to avoid the Omoplata.

What do you guys think?
We dubbed it the "Cowbell"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khfeh7e8Ljs

Dude! Thats so badass! I never remembering seeing this and ive rained with great blackbelts all around.

thanks man! its random as all hell, but lets hope it expands 10PJJ! :)

Hmm, first let me just point out a few things you need to do:

Work on that transition to Chill Dog. You need to let go, clear the neck and re-attach. It's rare you'll be able to do it the way you do if someone knows what Rubber Guard is about. Also, NEVER grab around the inside of their leg like that. If they roll, you're in an omoplata yourself. Holding around the far leg, or onto the ankle is a more viable option.

That's not Jiu Claw, either. You need to straighten your legs as if you are in the lockdown, and be on your side facing away from him. In this case, your left side.

About the technique, I don't think I've ever seen anybody arch back like that to defend an omoplata, but this reminds me a little of the Twist-O-Plata

What is going to keep someone from limp arming out when your legs aren't extended? Seems a little loose to be able to work this in a live rolling scenario with someone who is used to RG and omo setups. Have you been successful with it when rolling with someone savvy to RG?

Real loose through your entire technique. Your rubber guard is weak and your transition to chill dog is wrong as is your Kung Fu move. Way to many places that you give your opponent opportunities to escape. As far as your technique goes, its innovative and shows you're thinking, which is what 10th planet is about. Just tighten up your game

Frank is correct, work on tightening your positions. I love the innovation, just need some work on your "foundation".

thanks guys...the transitions were put there just to show the final result.
good call though. guess if im showing it, i need to do it properly from beginning to end. haha
the main point was to just show HOW I got there, and how to apply it.
I appreciate it guys!

What Jay C and Frank said...

The technique reminds me of the Twist-O-Plata, too. If this works for you in sparring: Great!
Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts...

Would this be filed under "cool shit that happened during live rolling"?

this tech does exsist. Nino Schembri does it, if u look up his highlight vid, i think ull see him demonstrating this move in it

its pretty darn close to the same thing. although, elvis is using his Gi to control. few different things between them :)
glad to see that im not the only person to pull this one off.
as far as me hitting this- I do get it when someone tries to reverse stack me. almost 100% of the time.
its a quick transition, usually when someone is trying to walk over me to reverse the omoplata...then i usually control that by pimp arming their leg. they normally dont sit as high as shown in the video, but the purpose of that was to show how to grab the foot and far arm. (without being toooo mean to the guy helping me out in the video)
funny part about it...its near impossible to tap. no arms, no feet, no voice. haha
we tend to have better luck getting it when the person in the omo leans forward to about 45degrees. usually this prevents him from walking over, or trying to defend the choke too much because he is using his free hand to post so he doesnt fall.

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we do something similar to this against big, powerful guys. we time his movement and use the perpendicular jiu claw to to sweep him into a reverse mounted gogo/baby arm type thing.

we call it mack the ripper.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

we do something similar to this against big, powerful guys. we time his movement and use the perpendicular jiu claw to to sweep him into a reverse mounted gogo/baby arm type thing.

we call it mack the ripper.

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Lets see a video, yo!

I actually use this one all the time. I thought I had invented it about a year ago, but I should know better by now. It's hard to submit a guy with decent posture and awareness, but I use it to sweep into a high mount, and you can keep the sub in and finish really strong from on top (you lean back and all your weight goes to your shin, kinda like a mounted triangle, but extremely tight). It goes from low-percentage to very high because they are defending the oma in the opposite direction, so the sweep comes easy. Also, when you threaten the sweep, people give up the sub more often or dive back into a deep oma. Try the sweep while keeping the sub/position, let me know what you think

Oops, just missed the post by kendell. Looks like I'm behind the times, lol. Mack the ripper it is! Does that mean there is a simpler, "Mack the Knife"?

Nice move man, very creative.

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Originally Posted by AcesRacked

I actually use this one all the time. I thought I had invented it about a year ago, but I should know better by now. It's hard to submit a guy with decent posture and awareness, but I use it to sweep into a high mount, and you can keep the sub in and finish really strong from on top (you lean back and all your weight goes to your shin, kinda like a mounted triangle, but extremely tight). It goes from low-percentage to very high because they are defending the oma in the opposite direction, so the sweep comes easy. Also, when you threaten the sweep, people give up the sub more often or dive back into a deep oma. Try the sweep while keeping the sub/position, let me know what you think

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that's the one, dude. i hit that junk A LOT. a whole lot. it seems ridiculous, but i catch some pretty decent guys with that from time to time.

torched.

why is there an ad in my comment?

and try using it in combination with that perpendicular jiu claw game. makes your percentage for a sub go way up if he feels like he can't posture back or he'll get swept.

the best time to use it is when you have already ice picked him once and he powers up the second time. instead of fighting him for the ice pick again, use his momentum against him, swim and drive your foot into his throat from a deep angle.

cant find a video of mack the ripper...then again, im visiting bolivia right now, and a lot of youtube videos wont load. (weird)
i wanna see this!