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Ive been playing around with this for awhile now. I used to trap the arm (s grip on top of head) go figure four grip and bridge and roll to guard. Now I'm try to hit "escape from Alcatraz" after trapping the arm. As soon as I see someone go for a key lock, I shoot up to trap the arm. I feel like I can get a tap 50% of the time with the lockdown.
I've tried an arm triangle from guard from a failed hip bump. Felt pretty tight but didn't get the tap
Apollo choke? Its money to get a guy to straighten out from twister pass.
Talking about Hitting arm triangle when you are mounted, then escaping out to half.
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Originally Posted by Don "Singlet" Blankenship
Do you try both arms? (arm triangle, other way darce.)
ive never tried an arm choke from being mounted. as far as lockdown goes i only use the apollo choke. its good to get a guy away from that twister pass. plus good squeeze from your legs of course.
iv found a good clinch with your arms determines how easy an opponent passes your half guard or quarter. Being that we mentioned the half guard.
Let's see video :)
No probQuote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo
Man I once had Tyler in a mounted arm triangle and had it pretty tight but then he somehow managed to escape his lower body and while I still had the arm triangle he used it to turn into me and get me in a swim move pretty damn cool think he said he learned it from a seminar
I had a noob who said" I just dont tap " when working arm triangles, and he didnt. So I used "The chimp " and he changed his attitude a little.lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Angel"EL DIABLO"Diaz
Lets see video of that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Angel"EL DIABLO"Diaz
Sounds fun. Where's these videos
Yeah I'm interested to see how you would set this up....I can't imagine trying to submit from bottom mount.
Going back to the drawing board. Tried it on a purple today and was not successful. I've hit this several times but that doesnt necessarily mean its high percentage. I'll have to get back to you guys. Are y'all hitting "escape from Alcatraz"? In certain situations it def does work but not 100% sure it's worth looking in to.
nothing is 100%
Not giving up yet!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
My guess is that the higher the skill level of your opponent.....the lower the % of finishing or even getting to the position. Once your opponent is purple or higher I don't see this working even 5% of the time. Brown/Black I would guess .0000001%
I'd say that's pretty much true with any technique.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Gillette
And even more true when trying to attack from a position where you can't control your opponents body
I'm very skeptical of the technique (at least in its discription) Will, I think your time would be better working your escapes.
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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
Tim, are you saying you don't like it? Just trying to think outside the box. That's why I love 10thP. Can't blame a blue belt for trying right? Lol
Will - I agree, thinking outside the box is absolutely a great idea. Just remember these 3 things when playing around with new submissions.
Ask yourself these questions IN THIS ORDER:
1 - Do I have control of my opponents body?
2 - Do I have control of the body part I'm attacking? (Arm, neck, foot, etc..)
3 - Do I have a way to apply pressure?
If you answer yes to these 3 questions ....then play with that submission.
In the case of the Arm Triangle from bottom mount.....You do not have control over your opponents body from the bottom mount.
I hope this helps in the future......I teach all of my students these 3 fundamental rules to applying submissions.