Heres a video I shot last year, X-Guard to Leg Knot/Leg lace. My prefered style of attacking over the 50/50 Guard.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffeSyXcoArg
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Heres a video I shot last year, X-Guard to Leg Knot/Leg lace. My prefered style of attacking over the 50/50 Guard.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffeSyXcoArg
awesome video chris. See u the 18th ;).
Great shit, I'm gonna inject that transition soon into one of my 2 week cycles :)
Nice Chris! Keep em coming.
Sweet!
The other version is to put the left foot on the inside of the knee and push the far leg away (rather than lifting the with the butterfly hook to make the fall backward) and take forward so they land face down.
Nice transition. One way to make the Leg Knot even tighter is after you cross your feet you scooch butt to butt with your opponent which makes their leg bend and give you more leverage on the submission.
Great video. I had asked Reilly in another forum if the leg lace integrated well with the X Guard, since there were some similarities in some of the entries. Unfortunately he wasn't familiar enough with the X Guard to comment. It's good to see that there is indeed a transition between both control positions.
I think your on to something with these leg lock things
Chris you are built like Jay Cutler. I bet you could take on the Russian army by yourself.
LOL @ Jay Cutler, mmmmm not so sure about that one. You sure your watching the HD version of that video?
nice video Chris keep them coming
What other leg control positions can be obtained that offer the same kind of stability and control as the leg lace?
Why would anyone seek a position in which his opponent has every option he does? Gambling on ignorance eventually fails. (referring to 50/50)
Uhhmmm, there's leg locks in zhiu zhitsu? Son of a.......................BEEEEP!
Excellent Chris! As a Catch guy, I really appreciate leg lock attacks. It's funny, but I use the X Guard to set up leg locks ALL the time! I'm not a big fan of 50/50 although I've used some variation for years prior to Mr Hall naming it. Let's keep it up! I hope to see you and Eddie on the 18th if I can get a baby sitter!!
The Inside Leg Triangle gives a lot of control. It's more solid than the Outside Leg Triangle or 50/50 and you can switch from foot locks to heel hooks, toe holds & knee bars. The Inside Leg Triangle can be countered but it is not a '50/50' situation like what Ryan Hall does.
inside and outside leg triangle is this the same thing some people refer to as inside and outside figure four? what is considered knee reaping?
speaking of figure four....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKrNGKO47ss
THE GREATIST LEG LOCK OF ALL TIME!!
In Sport BJJ you can do a straight ankle lock or have the leg on the low side of your body which would be an 'Outside/Low Approach' to leg locks. Most everything else is considered 'reeping the knee' in BJJ including the Outside/High approach that Chirs shows in the video above that ends in the Leg Knot.
The Figure Four from pro wrestling and the Inside Leg Triangle are different. I guess some people could call an Inside/Outside Leg Triangle a figure four.
Here's an example of an Inside Leg Triangle (inside/high approach). Leg Triangle starts around 1:30.
http://www.no-gi-grappling.com/leg-locks-clinic.html
When you're on your side with your legs triangled to the inside you want to have your knee driving into your opponent's hip and the ground. You squeeze the triangle on their leg. Then you can go for the foot lock, heel hook or as your opponent defends you can go to a toe hold, knee bar ... depending on what they do.
Some of you are falling to see the 50/50 leg locks are not 100%. why would you bank on your opp. having bad tech. would you defend an armbar after its on, thinking he doesnt no how to finish it.
50/50 isn't the best leg control position. There are some that are really tight like the Leg Knot or Inside Leg Triangle that are pretty safe and have a high finish % if you know what you're doing. The idea that leg locks give up position is true for people that jump for foot locks without securing the position first.
The problem with leg locks is that not many people really know how to secure positions that make them high percentage subs. The principle of 'position before submission' applies to leg locks too.
The issue I have with the method that starts at 1:30 is your opponent can still sit up as the attacker is facing outside, their is little control on the far hip, along with leaving themselves open for counter leg locks. The one he does at around 5:20 (turning inside) is far superior imho, and hiding your feet in his crotch or hamstring is much harder to attack than the way he leaves his legs on the inside/outside triangle.
I can agree with that. The path to the leg knot is the safest with the most control but there are other approaches to leg locks. My intention with the link was to show what an Inside Leg Triangle is. There are ways to counter and escape the ILT for sure, no doubt, I agree.
Were on the same page brother, just pointing it out. My intention is always to take the path to the leg knot, doesn't always end up that way depending on your opponents reactions. Its just that same as using the basic path in Rubber Guard, I'd like to end up going through the path, hitting the D.A. sweep to Twister Side Control, but I'm not gunna look a gift horse in the mouth if he gives up a GoGo or Omaplata!
I hate to admit it, but I hit a heel hook from 50/50 yesterday, wasn't intetionally going for 50/50 just ended up there in a scramble ;)
BTW guys we just passed 10,000 views on this thread, catching up to the "Ultimate Ass Thread"!
ok, thanks mallory its comming together now. I guess leg locks are going to be my new project. I always new there was alot more to it than you can actually see but dam! Its like an art all to its self im with Eddie tho, they scare the hell out of me.
A basic fall back or inside/outside counter:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx-jd9WFluc
And by the way fellas they way he attacks and falls straight back is an absolute "No No" when it comes to attack the legs, however its still very common.
No prob Jonathan. Go for it. Ever since I got injured by leg locks I have been studying them, they have become my hidden passion. Once you understand them they are not that scary.
The one thing to know to avoid injury is that you will not feel pain with most of them until a ligament or cartilage tears. You just feel pressure and think 'I can get out of this' and then RIIPPP. Cartilage does not have nerves in it and ligaments very few, that's why you do not feel pain until they break. Tendons on the other hand do have nerves in them. That why anything where there is pressure on your Achilles hurts so you can tap before there is damage that requires surgery.
When I was able to train we would go for the position but not try to submit, especially with heel hooks. Touch and go, that's it.
You can go straight back as long as you don't go flat on your back. If you go back onto your hip which will turn his hip so that they cannot stand up over you and bring your leg over the top of their leg which helps to bend the knee then going back is safe. Escpecially when it's done fast. Would you agree Chris ?
Here is an example of falling back from the guard at around 45 sec.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUv4zp7qdeY
50/50 is no joke. Tim is the guy in the instructional videos with Ryan and the guy who caught me in a heal hook 3 weeks ago. The guy is sick and it didn't help with Ryan there coaching him. Damnit! lol. I'll be lurking on this thread a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIULIMWa-ic