Lyoto declined the title match, probably wanted a full training camp.. Vitor Belfort is fighting Jones now. I kinda like this match up, better than a rematch atleast
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Lyoto declined the title match, probably wanted a full training camp.. Vitor Belfort is fighting Jones now. I kinda like this match up, better than a rematch atleast
This is such a mess. I'll be hoping Belfort gets that flash KO. But Jones is gonna win. This is still a tougher fight than Sonnen. I dont' get the logic.
I agree this whole deal is a mess. I woke up and read about vitor and instantly thought wtf? Went to bed he was fighting machida and woke up to him fighting vitor
This sucks for Alan Belcher, wasn't he training with Eddie to get set to fight Belfort?
how does Vitor get the title shot??
Damn, that's right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike May
Because an underprepared Sonnen can't talk his way into a title shot, but Vitor can....because Jones says so. SMH. This is getting ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack k
Vitor came out of left field
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Originally Posted by David Rosado
If you didn't read the huge press release by the UFC, they just pretty much blamed the entire thing on Jones, on the official UFC page.
At that point, I also would of been like "ok, fuck it, who do you want me to fight to shut you up?"
The guy is what 23? He can barely piss on his own. The UFC needs to keep a shorter leash on Jones so he cant fuck shit up.
It's ironic isn't it though. If he would've just done this to begin with (played ball), his business relationship with the UFC and Dana would still be in tact, he'd get paid earlier, get to take time off sooner, the UFC wouldn't have lost money, the other fighters would've been able to fight and get paid.....and so he finally decides to fight whoever just so they'd shut up, and he's still fighting an undersized LHW who did horribly in his last two fights a weight class down, in a fight that will have little to no impact on his "legacy." Greg Jackson being the master strategist that he is definitely dropped the ball on this one. Lose lose situation for Jones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitchell C
Seems like Jackson is the one holding the leash. Jackson has the potential to do to Jones what M-1 did to Fedor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cody Kietzman
Jones has pretty much cleaned out the division. All that is left is rematches and no one seems to want to take a rematch with Jones with 4 weeks to prepare. They should just bring Cormier over I bet he could make 205Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack k
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Originally Posted by Brent Smith
And take away the source of his power? (gut)
Blasphemy.
Wonder why they didnt have Chael fight instead of vitor as he would have on the original date of jones agreed.
Its prolly all part of their "strategy"Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Cody Kietzman
When you reach 30 and think back to being 23 you'll realize you were still a kid. Even though your still a kid at 30 you know so much more from lessons learned, mostly with understanding females:)
Jones is a 13-1 favorite. Buster Douglas was a 42-1 underdog... Here's hoping Vitor knocks him out
Vitor by first round straight punches to the face while running towards opponent ala Wanderlei knockout.
Seriously it would be the best event of 2012 by a long shot.
Here's my take on the fight.
Just by going with odds and styles, this fight will sell better and (more likely) be more exciting than it looks. Lets look at the options we had and the odds of winning the fight against JBJ.
Machida: Karate style that has been the most successful attack against Jones thus far in his career. However, as soon as Machida came forwards to look for finishing shots, he got caught and submitted soon after.
Winning Scenario: 5rds of Karate (aka boring) to maybe grab a decision. Certainly not exciting, or necessarily plausible. Odds of winning 15-25%.
Sonnen: Grinding and powerful, he comes forwards with only one thing in mind. Throw his strongest shot at you and throw you against the cage and ground. However, Jones has NEVER been taken down and he has fought Bader, Evans, and Brandon Vera in his career... Sonnen may be (aka is) at a style disadvantage. Unless he has a 3rd arm in his mouth remains to be seen.
Winning Scenario: What he did for 23 minutes against Silva. Odds of Winning: 12.5-20%
Belfort: Blazing fast and ridiculously talented in the striking department, he makes his fights extremely fun while they last. He throws his gloves with unmatched speed at middleweight, so I would give him a tiny... tiny speed advantage in his striking due to his hand speed. His defense is vulnerable but he is willing to push forward and hit whatever he can.
Winning Scenario: Channeling his inner "Matt Serra" and pushing forward for a stunning 1st rd KO. His finishing ability compared to Machida and Sonnen is significantly more worrisome, and that factor alone gives him the best odds of winning. 25-35%.
P.S at 13-1 odds.... put 10 bucks on Belfort. That would be lol worthy.
I personally would rather see chael in there then vitor. Im disappointed in Jones and hopes he loses his title.
isnt jon jones supposed to be the best in the world and hes turning down fights like chael sonnen! if he really needed the money like he said he would be asking to fight chael who wouldn't order that. dont be scared homie lol jk
I'm just happy that 152 in Toronto (or 151) is stacked. My gut feeling is that someone is going to be pull out of the card from an injury.