I don't see how the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. Unless you were training for no gi and gi. Yet Eddie Bravo wears gi pants and the gracies dont anymore wtf?
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I don't see how the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. Unless you were training for no gi and gi. Yet Eddie Bravo wears gi pants and the gracies dont anymore wtf?
Personal preference maybe? I think outside MMA it's actually a bit more realistic unless you're not a fan of wearing pants on a daily basis - and really, who is.
Looking at Eddie v Royler, though, it seems like pants do give your opponent an advantage.
Advantages:
-easier to electric chair people
-harder for them to escape your truck
-easy conversion from gi to no gi since you needn't buy a bunch of spats or shorts and can just roll with old gi pants
-harder for them to escape your leg locks
-tighter rubber guard
Disadvantages:
-harder to knee slice or break free of half-guard variations on top
-harder to escape someone's truck
-harder to escape leg locks
-they may grab it
*basically advantages and disadvantages are a direct product of friction.
Eddie is on record on JRE saying he'd wear them again vs. Royler since it made the electric chairs easy
I love wearing gi pants during nogi. I stopped though, because I felt it would tighten my game up a little, if I didn't depend on the pants for extra grip.
The advantages of grip far outweigh the disadvantages listed above. It's rare that I'm not in gi pants and I don't really have a hard time getting out of trucks or leg attacks. If they grab my pants, I call them Royler, but other than that I'm used to that happening and I usually know how to deal with it (painfully).
It really comes down to the type of game you play. If you are top heavy and like to pass and smash then you probably will prefer not wearing pants. If you like to play the bottom to sweep and submit, then pants help enormously.
scott, your commit was very interesting, I am def. more of a top game player maybe that's part of the why I don't like gi pants.
I like them because they're comfortable and because it best approximates what I'd have on in the theoretical street fight scenario, jeans and a t-shirt. It's cool to know top level guys like scottross think its an advantage, I was thinking it was probably a net disadvantage but worth it for those two reasons. Now that I reflect though, I do have a lot of people commenting on how hard it is to escape leg entanglements when I have them on, and rarely if ever do I feel like they lead to me getting tapped.
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