I am typically a good guard passer, but at my Hotbox all the guys I roll with have weight on me. Is there any good guard pass's for a larger opponent?
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I am typically a good guard passer, but at my Hotbox all the guys I roll with have weight on me. Is there any good guard pass's for a larger opponent?
Leg drag. All day. And Knee slice
^yup
Fly/rollovers, gallops, and legdrag while anticipating attacking the reguard.
Gallops...never heard of those
must research
Also pay attention to where your opponents hips are at all times when trying to pass, it'll guide you to what passes are the most efficient. I use this little ditty to help my guys remember:
"If this hips are on the ground, go over or around. If the hips are in the air, go under the derriere".
just let them sweep you to mount, Alcatraz to lockdown, then just electric chair/ old school them, the pass is easy then from the electric chair sweep/old school. LOL, sorry, in a funk today. Listen to Bobby and Zog.
I probly made the term up since I got it from a Brazilian who just called it "Den you gonna circle de leg lika dis."
It's super effective on all body types when an opponent is sitting. Step one leg inside his guard then make him address your upper body control. Then circle your inside leg out to his hip while high legging your rear behind it. It's a real one two motion and it feels like a gallop over his knee into a reverse knee on belly. I push down on his head, shoulder, or arms to take the weight off if my legs for the gallop.
The other one is a step through, like a knee slice except with the foot, directly into traditional knee on belly. You gotta be ready to control or move immediately on both of these.
Sorry I can't find a video.
Hey Bobby: Will any of this work? We been drilling this for the past 2 wks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vK648V0Hrk
Anything Marcelo or Mendes is def my go to when it comes to passing. That is a perfect video of the Marcelo series. I have a lot of other passes and trix(flyovers/gallups/duckunders), but they are all being setup within this series, or the Mendes lace and leg drag. Like everything- base, timing, control, and movement are crucial. If you're missing the subtleties these passes are easy to stop. If you grasp the subtleties passing becomes much simpler.
Beautiful
Very Sick pass, and thanks Herzog! All good points
One of my friends at Jiu Jitsu has a guard that I find extremely difficult to pass. Higher level guys pass with less difficulty obviously because I am a noob, but the thing that gets me is that he basically pulls his knees up to his shoulders anytime I try to pass.
He seems to get those knees in and up faster that I can legdrag and step over or whatever. I don't know. My passing is not getting any better from rolling with him, but my personal guard game has improved noticeably since I started paying attention to how he is keeping me out and started applying it.
But yeah, he has great fetal position flexability, meaning he can basically pull his thighs to his chest/knees to shoulders fairly tight and extremely quickly, making it hard to get through, around or over.
I've had a little success with some knee slicing and a little with single unders, but really I think its just my passing that needs work in general.
Kurzy: correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been studying that video of Marcelo's passing and "I think" the reason for the hand on the stomach/ ab is for controlling the hip. And if you can control the hip, he might find it harder to bring that knee up to his shoulder or get in that fetal position.
Sometimes you just can't pass the guard all at once. I def prefer to stand and pass cleanly, but sometimes you just gotta smash their guard. Being able to stuff bfly guard or jump into half with an underhook then smash are very useful skills. One of my favorites is to jump directly into twister smash pass on guys like you described. You completely separate his upper and lower body and negate his ability to retract his knees.
I also like to leg lace guys with good hips ala Rafa Mendes. Once you learn to move while still controlling the lace and keep pressure you drastically decrease his mobility and again, his ability to go fetal.
Lot of pros to smashing, opposed to standing. The biggest is they can't get under you. All kindsa bad shit happens then.
Biggest con, is its almost guaranteed to be a fight if he's good. Which means work. I don't like work, but I'll clock in cuz papa's gotta eat.
As usual, I think sound fundamentals in both strategies compliment and open up opportunities for each other.
Anything flying or rolling, I overuse. And love it. Main problem with this I've found is new guys doing what they think I'm doing and end up with a poorly timed and non setup positional suicide. I failed a lot before I finally got timed and oriented, but I never just rolled for tha fuck of it. Lotta white belts doin this now, and although I never taught it, it's my fault we have people rollin like idiots. I guess they'll be fine.
Is he now? I remember when I practically forced him to drill the flying armbar and triangle. Sam-"No man, just not my thing" me-"Just humor me dude". Good to hear.
Haha, Bobby and Brandon, thanks for the input. (Laughing at "Papa's gotta eat")
So is twister smash what I imagine it to be? Just basically diving into twsiter side control?
While in half guard.
Yeah, my Bobby daddy plays way different than my BMC daddy. With Brandon it was always so much pressure and I knew the pass was happening but couldn't do anything. With Bobby it was like pressure, where the fucks he at....oh pressure again...why are you in the air?...oh shit tap.
3rd person paternal references ftw.
I wish I was rich and could just fly all over and train for a week with each one of you guys.
I notice the words "points" keeps coming up in this thread....
That's fine, forget the points. That's a huge degree of control to give up. You're giving up arguably the most dominant position (by letting someone sweep and mount) to someone only to try to escape, and then sweep, only to end up right back on top where you were to begin with?
Unless the plan is to sweep directly to side control, but even then. A good grappler is going to make you pay if you're under their mount. I don't know why you wouldn't just learn how to pass the guard?
EDIT: Besides "keeping it playful" I see no situation where that's a smart choice. be it a tournament or an MMA fight or self defense. That sounds like a crazy strategy.
That's why I like Mike. No nonsense completely logical and highly analytical view of jj, competition, and an encyclopedia of the top players. Good contrast to our dumbasses.
I gotta couch with your name on it anytime Kurz.