The Hangmen: Using 10th Planet with the Gi

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08-18-2010, 12:28 PM
Ari Bolden

The Hangmen: Using 10th Planet with the Gi

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The Hangmen SGD -10 (Special Gi Division of 10th Planet) are a small group of dedicated 10th Planet warriors who still brave the gi but yet believe in the techniques of 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu. As such, they toil to adapt the 10th Planet techniques to their game.

Looking for a few good men or women.

On a serious note, I'd like to start a discussion on what you find WORKS with the GI and what does not (friction/holding).

I came up with this name based on a move Eddie showed me a few years ago called the HANGMAN with he explained started his whole high guard and rubber guard development.

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08-18-2010, 12:39 PM
Nate Musick

Truth be told, I find it a little easier to work my half guard with a GI, because people get so frustrated with my over and unders that they forget how easy it is for me to make the small transition to collar or sleeve control. I also have a little bit of fun working the Stock with a GI.
08-18-2010, 01:01 PM
Ron Almeida

my son uses 10th planet moves with the gi, with great success...
08-18-2010, 01:16 PM
Brandon Mccaghren

it's WAY easier to control posture in the gi, i think. if i play rubber guard with my left leg up high, i can grip my opponent's right sleeve or collar and use that to isolate his arm and get "free new yorks" much more easily.
08-18-2010, 01:36 PM
Jon Helton

Definitely easier to break an opponent down and keep their posture broken down. Although, the zombie is harder to accomplish I do find most of my other techniques from rubber are better. Much more grip. I still enjoy no gi more, but I dusted off my gi a few weeks ago and I'm enjoying it.
08-18-2010, 02:34 PM
bobby rivers

Renato? where you at?
08-18-2010, 05:27 PM
Renato Laranja

Now you can see that 10th planet gonna work better with the Gi. But one day my friend,you gonna see that everythings work better with the Gi. Thats why. Because the Gi is the foundation. Thats Jiu-Jitsu.
08-18-2010, 05:49 PM
Josh Ritchie

i love the gi.. it hides my man boobs and huge gut.
08-18-2010, 08:26 PM
Jon Helton

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clayton

Yeah Jon! After your FB post I put my gi pants on and worked some rubber guard. I could double bag pretty easy by pistol gripping my ankle cuff. The zombie is harder to get, but like you showed me...I can just invisible crackhead and pump them to get those arms straightened out more. After that, securing that farside armbar comes alot easier with a gi to grab on to.

Awesome Clayton! Glad to hear invisible crackhead is working for you. I got some new stuff I've been working on to show you when you get back. Satsuma guard!!! You guys don't know about that!
08-18-2010, 08:28 PM
Jon Helton

Are you gi guys familiar with the way to play rubber guard in the gi without using your leg? Instead you use the back of your opponents gi?
08-18-2010, 08:38 PM
bobby rivers

Nogi improved my gi tons.
08-18-2010, 09:51 PM
michael craig

gi does help with your judo throws
08-19-2010, 05:55 AM
Bill Keeling

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Helton

Are you gi guys familiar with the way to play rubber guard in the gi without using your leg? Instead you use the back of your opponents gi?

Are you talking about how Braulio Estima works the gi? (is no Rubber Guard w/o the legs) But I do know what your talking about, the biggest prob with the gi is, you get used to/dependant on grips/moves/tech that may not be there in the "real" situation... (if they don't have on a jacket or a gi) Just my $.02
08-19-2010, 06:19 AM
Jon Helton

Not sure if its how Braulio Estima does it. I can't find any vids. I was showed an Alliance instructor. No it's not a way to play rubber, but you have a lot of the same submissions (should have worded it different.) It's almost like having them in invisible collar.
08-19-2010, 06:50 AM
Bill Keeling

Yep, that's Braulio's style. For gi "tricks" I like his style, he had some nice no-gi pointers as well. He taught every technique that he used in this years ADCC. But as I have said numerous times, I don't like the idea of training with grips/tech that are dependant on the attire of my opponent :( That is a set up for failure. I had a rough childhood/life (a lot of real fights), so that is what governs my opinion. Just trying to keep it real "For REAL" LoL! I still have and train with a gi sometimes, I just use no-gi grips and under/over hooks. Why, you may wonder? The gi weighs you down, keeps you hotter than without, allows your training partners advantages that you don't have (them being able to grip your gi, thereby being able to slow you down and have greater control than without you wearing the gi) I constantly use our system in the gi with great success!
08-19-2010, 07:14 AM
AJ Camacho

Somebody blew out the crotch on my gi pants while pulling a standing ankle lock. So now I have to walk around looking like a sambo guy (gi top no bottoms) whenever we have gi nights.
08-19-2010, 07:17 AM
Jonathan Wylie

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ Camacho

Somebody blew out the crotch on my gi pants while pulling a standing ankle lock. So now I have to walk around looking like a sambo guy (gi top no bottoms) whenever we have gi nights.

ba hahahahha you lost the best part of the gi
08-19-2010, 07:29 AM
Chris Herzog

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael craig

gi does help with your gi judo throws

Fixed.
08-19-2010, 09:07 AM
AJ Camacho

The funnest part of rolling with the gi is trying to hit an uchi mata on a kneeling opponent. So much harder when you have to get the over/under first.