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Today i did the lockdown from attacking my friends left leg instead of his right..Uusally it just bothers him he said i should try the other side and i did..He said it hurt like hell and wanted to tap...now this dude is one of the guys that doesnt just tap from nothing...
Did you stick your finger in his butt? That's the only way I know of to get a tap from the lockdown.
Yea but only really really green rookies inwhich I out-weighed.
Yes. Alot of times when doing a whip up the increase in pressure from the position changes takes people by surprise. But keep in mind, folks will often tap in training if something is uncomfortable or painful, just to avoid extreme soreness the next day. Not the same as a real threat to do definite damage (though I am sure a calf or two has been popped/ruptured from it) IMO.
I've seen a real small guy tap a huge muscle monster with the lockdown... apparently was hurting his calf. But he was real new.
lmao funny damn shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt Glach
Yes I have before....but it was after i stretched out my LD...some people arent used to it and kinda just panic!=)
my friend has a nasty lockdown that really kills my calf muscles. So I admit to tapping to it.
Yes, by stretching him out.
I also once got a tap by stretching him out.
From newer guys I have. If I get any acknowledgement from the usual guys, it's usually just a grunt from me tightening it.
i tapped a couple of overweight guys that flopped down on me so i went half guard into lockdown and stretched it out and they tapped . in my beginning days of 10th planet last year i tapped to the lockdown
some guy at HQ tapped out someone with it "Amir" hes this huge wrestler dude hes super flexible for his size!
Over the years studying the 10th Planet system, the half guard game has been the most valuable to me. As such, I feel very comfortable when I have someone in it. In my experience seeing literally hundreds of people use it, the lockdown can and will get the tap on some people. I have seen the lockdown also cause knee damage on about 6 people over the years.
The pressure from the lockdow can be too much for noobs or guys who are not use to that sort of half guard. Then, there are guys with incredible crushing power from the lockdown than just want to make you tap. Some guys have shins like blades that cut into the calf muscle.
I would say it is rare to get a tap from the lockdown but NOT impossible. It is even more rare (but not impossible again) to actually damage the knee joint from doing the lockdown.
Having large legs makes my lockdown rather tight and I have tapped newer guys in the past. I thought of tapping once from a guy's lockdown because the size of my legs vs. his fit just right making it incredibly tight. Maybe I'll test this out a bit on new guys and see how many tap.
I don't understand why people stay in the same position if it's hurting and just eventually tap. Like if they wait, it'll get better.
when people don't get how it works, they seem to sometimes turn their leg the wrong way in the lockdown, increasing pressure. I have gotten basically a calf-crush out of it in those cases.
i put it on light and never tried to use it as a submission because that way they don't do anything about it.
I think a lot of it depends the length and your legs vs the length of your opponents. Everybody is going to be different, therefore the pressure will be much more intense in some circumstances as opposed to others.
When I first starting messing with the lockdown I used it on a 260 lb purple belt. He had never felt it before and I popped his knee out. I felt real bad, but he got his revenge a few months later.