Unknown technique

Hi guys !
I have seen a guy from 10th planet who did a technique I have never seen before and it's impossible to find it on YouTube or MTS. I'll try to explain it but it's a bit complicated. The opponent passes my guard. then being under the guy I grab my leg like a rubber guard and I close in triangle with my second leg. The guy who is above and who has passed my guard is strangled with my arm. It is difficult to explain. in fact it is a strangulation when the guy passes us guard a bit like an inverted triangle ... I would like to know the name of this technique to know the details if it is visible on MTS. It was very effective. Thank you.

Sounds like you could be referencing the Buggy Choke, but not sure...Google it and let us know. If not, more detail.

Gary, he said he closes a triangle with his second leg? I don't think the buggy choke uses the second leg. We need more details. What guard is he passing? Where does he end up?

I have watched buggy choke and its not that ( is it really effective :confused: ) I have watched kraken choke too and its more that but not exactly.
Ok I'll try To explain better...
I have my back on the mat. The opponent is on me. He has passed my guard. He is on side control. his legs are to my left and his head to my right. I pass my left leg over his back and head and grab my ankle with my right hand like a rubber guard. my right forearm is against his neck (on the right side to his neck) my right leg closed the triangle and he is strangled. I hope its better.

I've figure-foured my legs like a triangle with the buggy choke in to get more leverage before, that's why I was thinking maybe that was what he was doing...but still not enough info. I do mine slightly different than what I've seen others do though. Need pix or a vid. And the buggy choke can be effective if you can catch them, if not, then you run the risk of putting yourself in a bad spot and you're just stuck.

OK so what you're describing is like Invisible Collar but they are in side control and you triangle the leg??? I've seen this before in a video. Maybe Ben Eddy???

Nope, bottom side control when they have head and arm control. Throw your head side arm over and deep hook your head side leg at the knee (elbow to knee)...then your hip side leg triangles your head side leg. This is what I'm envisioning him referencing when he said "strangle him with my arm" while being in a bottom side rubberguard while triangling his legs. I think...who knows. But above is what I do with the buggy choke.

This is hilarious, us trying to breakdown this description... So he's on bottom... Opponent on top side but head on his right... We're assuming head & arm control... So he goes right wrist to left ankle but he says "right forearm is against his neck (on the right side to his neck)" OK so not IC, it's like he cleared the neck... Then he throws his right leg over into a triangle... which if i'm picturing correctly, does nothing. Basically his forearm is putting pressure on the side of the neck? The guy is choking because he won't let go of head and arm?

LOL...I didn't even catch his latest update. I give up now. Need pix/vid. :confused:

Sounds like some Derek Rayfield bottom side control wizardry.

Or rubber side, its somewhere in MTS

Ok thank you guys for your research but I dont speak English well it's difficult for me to explain. I will make a video.

I have found. It's flytrap
You can see that here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkuDDwAk5X0&app=desktop

Gotcha...nice find! Figures it'd either be Ben Eddy or Jeremiah Vance, they are two of the best rubber guard players on the planet!

Maybe it’s a move Jeremiah Vance does. Maybe it’s a Rayfield move. Gotta see video to be sure

Nice!

Yes It was Jeremiah I have seen. I can do this technique only on skinny guys. It really requires a lot of flexibility.

Yea fly trap. Here's a different variation I saw. Same setup but triangle with the other leg. Submitted Marcelo Garcia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmLjCMj6szI

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Originally Posted by Renaud Loiseau

I have found. It's flytrap
You can see that here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkuDDwAk5X0&app=desktop

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Thats awesome!!!

Mystery solved

i believe you are talking about the fly trap submission hit by Jeremiah Vance? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkuDDwAk5X0&t=46s

at 1;15 is when he starts the choke, but i only know the name and im not aware of any details on how to specifically do it

GUYS!! He's talking about Vance's FLYTRAP. I do it a lot with the same limbs on described side

Greyson Holmes started doing this and we were calling it the rubber ducky LOL

Public Service Announcement: Remove your framing arm from the triangle before you put any hips into it, and use it to go 2-on-1 on the shoulder instead. The way Jeremiah Vance finished this technique in the opening sequence of the video that OP linked shows the arm still inside of the triangle, but this places your bicep in extreme danger. Doing this technique with my arm still in the triangle tore my left distal bicep tendon clean off of my radius, which resulted in surgery, seven weeks in a cast, tremendous muscle atrophy, loss of mobility in my arm and wrist, four months of not being able to go to work, and it looks like about a year of not being able to train using both of my arms confidently.

TLDR: Take the arm out of the triangle or you'll wreck yourself.

I dont understand what, in this technique, is dangerous for the bicep ?

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Yea fly trap. Here's a different variation I saw. Same setup but triangle with the other leg. Submitted Marcelo Garcia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmLjCMj6szI

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Marcelo did not look happy after that. lol

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Originally Posted by Renaud Loiseau

I dont understand what, in this technique, is dangerous for the bicep ?

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If your arm stays in, essentially in a mission control grip, your legs are forcing your arm to extend while your arm is loaded up with tension. Another easy fix is just to grab that ankle with an overhand grip instead.

Ok I understand but with an overhand grip there is not pressure on the neck To submit the guy I think

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Originally Posted by Renaud Loiseau

Ok I understand but with an overhand grip there is not pressure on the neck To submit the guy I think

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So then it's up to you to decide between having choking pressure or saving your arm from a year of rehab. Even in this video where Jeremiah executes it perfectly, you can see the gradual extension of the right arm which is playing with fire. https://youtu.be/MkuDDwAk5X0?t=73

I can't find the video anymore, but I am quite certain that the instructional I saw on this a ways back was emphasizing that it is a neck crank, with both hands hugging the shoulder, and therefore doesn't require the framing arm. I could be mistaken, though.