Fade to Black DVD's Brandon Quick Question

Awhile back I thought about buying the Fade to Black DVD's. I see online how some people thought they where overpriced because Brandon Quick was teaching the chokes, and they must not have done any research on him prior to buying the dvd and where disappointed and said it was false advertising. I do not question his ability but would like to know peoples opinion of the dvd's. I understand there was a delimna about his rank and that, but I'm more interested in if they are worth the price tag for what they are?

The BQ vids, arent bad, but your better off going to mmavault.com and renting them....a choke is a choke, regardless of who is teaching them. Im not A BQ fan, but the series isnt horrid...lots better than the 9th Dimenson rubber guard....lol

Frankly I think Quick's choke series is decent, but I wouldnt put a penny in his pocket after all the BS he pulled.

And dear LORD @ Nth dimension...thats just a painfully blatent rip off. No respect for him after that.

I appreciate the advice guys I think I will do what Coringao told me and go to mmavault, and you're right a choke is a choke I didn't know if there was anything special to them. I wouldn't spend a dime on th 9th dimension dvds especially after having Eddies Rubber Guard DVD's which definately wasn't a waste nor where his books.

i have the BQ set. it's pretty good. the problem i have with it is that it isn't very detailed. it has TONS of chokes on it, though. be prepared to take what he shows and have to look for the important details yourself.

alder showed me the can crusher and gave me the crucial details of it, and that made the BQ DVDs a whole lot more useful.

Thts with most any video set though, You really need a good instructor to point out the little details along the way. Im all about details. The more the better, so tht I can get full grasp of technique. I remember whn the first sets of BJJ/ Jiujitsu vids started hitting selves... some were unbelievable, some r just forgotten... Im not a 9th D fan at ALL....tht was joke...

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Originally Posted by Coringao

Thts with most any video set though, You really need a good instructor to point out the little details along the way. Im all about details. The more the better, so tht I can get full grasp of technique. I remember whn the first sets of BJJ/ Jiujitsu vids started hitting selves... some were unbelievable, some r just forgotten... Im not a 9th D fan at ALL....tht was joke...

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yeah, but some instructionals are very detailed and you can learn the finer points of a technique just by hearing the teacher wax eloquently on something he is passionate about. i think Eddie's DVDs are good examples of this. other great instructionals that you can actually pick up details from:

1. Gracie Combatives
2. Maia's Science of Jiu Jitsu
3. There is an old DVD with Renzo and Kukuk that I think is fantastic.
4. Carlos Machado Infinite Jiu Jitsu

Quick looked like he had memorized a lot of chokes, but hadn't been using them long enough to understand the weight distribution and angles sometimes.

With the Nth Dimension videos, there are a few details or points that are indeed useful, i.e. good underhooks vs. bad underhooks or good and bad angles in which to pass a guard going for a darce. And the first disc on back attacks are useful.

And yes, the twister or truck explanations, and what Drysdale calls rubber guard are lacking, of course from our perspective, but not totally useless. But there are hidden gems of information on the six disc set.

On another note, I heard (can't even remember from where) that Mastering the RG is the best selling BJJ DVD set of all time.
Can anyone confirm or refute this?

The craziest part is if you pre ordered the dvd, you received a free BLACK 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu D.F.W t-shirt! I wore it one day while rolling with Bollinger, and he was giving me the craziest look! I was like "WHAT?!". Never hit me till right then! LMAO!

^^ They still give out that t-shirt??

Not a BQ fan at all but his video was decent. Lacked some detail but overall it was ok. I too have the black 10th Planet shirt....never wear it though.

Curious to know who he is affiliated with now, I heard he was competing as a brown.

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Originally Posted by Ian "ifreez" Freemantle

^^ They still give out that t-shirt??

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I'm not sure.

Lol, yeah Im on your side Brandon, Ive got the Kukk A-Z, Gracie combatives, and of course anything and everything 10th Planet, you and I both look for finer points in techniques. But some people watch a poorly made video, that lacks in details, and learn the move incorrectly, or worse hurts someone, or themselves. But yes TONS of great instrutionals out there to be soaked up.

Gracie Combatives is very good, Hyron and Hener have the combatives as a requirement for blue belt. I like the detail that in those dvd's. I also liked Marrio Sperry's Submission Grappling set.

I was just curious about the comment in the original post about not questtioning BQs skill...... that's the problem, he lied and people question his skill. Dvds aren't that bad, I bought them before I found out he's a farce: ( wouldn't have supported it.

It was only a matter of time before this came up lol. The video is decent but it really only shows a handful of chokes. Just shows them from different setups. You're better off with all stars as einstein shows why bquicks peruvian does not work and his does

I seen on other threads where people have said he is a legit purple but not a brown like he states. Also I don't think rank has everything to do with a persons skill level. Look at Matt Hughes he has no belt and choked out a black belt and neutralized others on the ground because he has skill. Thats why I stated that the way I did I don't want to show disrespect towards someones skill when they have trained for some time.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Jacobsen

Not a BQ fan at all but his video was decent. Lacked some detail but overall it was ok. I too have the black 10th Planet shirt....never wear it though.

Curious to know who he is affiliated with now, I heard he was competing as a brown.

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He's with Team Trinity in Texas

10th planet all stars? sean bollinger. denny propokos some jew. shot in higher quality then any other jj instructional.

^^^ LOL at Einstein!!!!
He speaks the truth though! the 10th Planet All Stars DVD is great i also like the Jeff Glover Deep Half guard set!

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Originally Posted by Coringao

Lol, yeah Im on your side Brandon, Ive got the Kukk A-Z, Gracie combatives, and of course anything and everything 10th Planet, you and I both look for finer points in techniques. But some people watch a poorly made video, that lacks in details, and learn the move incorrectly, or worse hurts someone, or themselves. But yes TONS of great instrutionals out there to be soaked up.

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i had to laugh after everything that has happened over the last couple of days