The DQ came because the ref said "stop" in portuguese and huen didn't stop so he got DQed. Huen was being smart and wasn't going to stop till the ref physically stopped him but apparantly that's against the rules. Another rediculous rulingQuote:
Originally Posted by Dylan Ehrnreiter
congrats to all and I,m gonna try to make it next year
"Submission Grappling?"
pure gold
Watched the whole video finally... Still seems like a no-good call.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent "Deimos" Smith
Ridiculous, you have to know 4 Portuguese words at a tournament in America? They're trying to keep it "Brazilian".
How is it not easier for all the referees to learn those 4 words in English than it is the hundreds of competitors to learn them in Portuguese?
The only thing I don't agree on conors side was the "break it" shouting. Makes 10thpjj look bad and gives fuel to the haters.
But I understand why the guy was shouting it, since you expect to hold a submission until the opponent taps and the ref stops it so the outcome is clear. But the ref proved that he would rather stand there speaking Portuguese that jump in and SAVE the athlete from unnecessary damage. I bet just buy touching conor on the shoulder he would have stopped. His opponent was being a dick with the upkicks but I think the punching in the kitney was ok. Of course tapping would have been better.
The reason for that was that he couldn't rely on the ref. He was saying stop, conor did not hear it. That's ok, its a combat sport with adrenaline and you might not hear everything. That's why there's the ref. You must be able to trust the ref to do this job and save you once you say stop. If someone was breaking my foot while I was saying stop and the ref wouldn't to shit, I would go crazy as well.
Conor should read the rules next time (but again imo he didn't do anything wrong)
His opponent should try to tap first then punch.
The IBJJF needs to get new refs or train them better.
I understand verbally tapping when your hands are occupied but if your hands are free enough to punch a dude on the thigh, why not just tap? From my experience, most guys are less likely to stop to a verbal submission anyways since they aren't expecting it and it's also difficult to understand people with their mouth piece in.
I never really thought of this but do they only bring refs from Brazil? I would think being in southern california you would have some locals reffing? They should at least learn "stop" in English. I bet there were more Americans than Brazilians in this tourney.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Chow
It also seems odd that when someone's safety and health is in danger, that you choose that moment to "represent" and hold it down for Brazil. Consequences be damned, I'm not saying "stop".
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Originally Posted by AJ Camacho
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+2 for the sweet stache'