My lockdown can't hold this guy - any advice?

I've been training for about a year and learning to use the lockdown much more effectively, but I have one guy who has been a big problem. He is super strong and blasts through my lockdown by forcibly extending his hips. He doesn't even do the buttock compressor - dude just rocks right out of it.

To make it worse...I've shown HIM the lockdown and that dude can submit me with it! I've never encountered this with any other opponent. He's about 50 pounds heavier than me and also taller but I can't figure this one out. I figure there is probably a solution out there so wanted to bring it to you guys. Thanks very much. The resources here are great.

Rod

I'd say, switch to RG or train your quads to hold the bastard

Pyramid that sum bitch, Hod.

I regularly roll with guys as big or bigger than what you say and can hold them in the Lockdown. Sometimes it’s easier because their legs are so thick. Whipping up and down, left and right helps a lot to disrupt their base. Keep your feet pointed back, not relaxed. Don’t let them flatten you out either. Get to your side asap. Or stomp and go to butterfly or full guard. Ankle sleeves help too for grip. Good luck!

If he's submitting you when you're in his lockdown, I'm pretty sure that's just a pain move. Reasonably sure there's no actual damage that would be caused by just gritting your teeth through it. Maybe a bruise at worst. YMMV

The other thing is - just avoid his lockdown altogether. As soon as you're in (or moving towards being in) his half-guard, just turn your target leg so that it is at 90 degrees to his legs - he will not be able to put lockdown on.

I feel like I have been pedaling these thoughts often, but get good at the stomp and familiarize yourself with Demian Maia's straight line theory. Perhaps the second suggestion seems vague and unrelated, but hopefully with some time on the mats you will see what I am saying.

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Originally Posted by Jon Watkins

I feel like I have been pedaling these thoughts often, but get good at the stomp and familiarize yourself with Demian Maia's straight line theory. Perhaps the second suggestion seems vague and unrelated, but hopefully with some time on the mats you will see what I am saying.

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Eddie always says one’s stomp game has to be good. And I looked up straight line after the third time you mentioned it, lol! Good stuff!

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Originally Posted by Jon Watkins

I feel like I have been pedaling these thoughts often, but get good at the stomp and familiarize yourself with Demian Maia's straight line theory. Perhaps the second suggestion seems vague and unrelated, but hopefully with some time on the mats you will see what I am saying.

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Totally agree with the Jon. Some of my smaller guys are really, really good at utilizing the stomp to butterfly and then attacking the legs. Just being great at the stomp, alone, will make it very difficult to pass your guard. Remember, if something isn't working you must choose a different path and in this case the lockdown isn't working against this guy. I'd drill the shit out of getting the stomp, to butterfly, to attack the legs. Hope this helps.

Thanks guys. I'll definitely work on those ideas and get back to you.

Very few techniques work on guys 50 pounds heavier than you and at your level or better.

It’s all about mastering the flying Kung fu. You should always be hunting for over hooks

Thanks for taking the time Coach. I've been problem solving it a bit more and making some progress with it but yeah the size difference is tough to negate with his (and my) skill level.

I'm always thinking underhooks and trying to sweep him. I've been having more success with him using the butterfly guard so going for the overhook makes a lot more sense. Hope I'm interpreting that right. Again thanks everyone for the help. Hell at this point it's all helpful!

So just watched MTS 14. Great overview of how to handle a big guy. Can't wait to work this next week. Thanks again.

I'd say rocking up to your side and grabbing over hook or double unders. Keep that sucka from getting low.

Sometimes I go to 1/4 Z or open Z on giant guys and wait/hunt for overhooks to fire flying Kung fu

So the getting my overhooks in made a huge difference. For whatever reason we spend a ton of time in various forms of half-guard so that was a relief. Starting to work on flying Kung fu too. I've hit it on a few strong beginners but haven't it it on my buddy yet! Thanks everyone for the help.

Almost two years after making this post and my lockdown game has improved tremendously. All the advice above was golden. Learning how to whip and relax the legs when needed made a big difference. My stomp transition is developing and my flying kung-fu still sucks but I'm working on it.

Dumb question about the flying kung-fu learning curve. Do you ever accidentally hit people in the side of the face doing it in a live roll? Asking for a friend.