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    An open letter to the martial arts community from Ryan Hall

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    http://livingthemartialarts.com/

    Foreword: for more go to ^

    My name is Ryan Hall. Some of you know me as a competitor, some as a guywho blinks a lot on DVDs, some as a friend, and some not at all.I write to you because awful things have taken place, both recently and long ago.Like all awful things, they must not be allowed to go unchecked; they must becombated not only in word, but in action. Some may suggest that I have no rightto comment or cast judgment on these things, asking who appointed me thearbiter of good taste. In response to this, I say that what follows is merely myopinion, but if my community cannot be counted on to meaningfully police itself on matters so painfully clear as these, then it is not a community I would like tobe a part of any longer.We must, as reasonable people, unite and do what we can to make sure that our words are not empty ones. Scorn and snarky comments on Internet forums arenot enough—they fade away and those who were not here to see them may oneday forget that these events ever occurred.I ask you to read this in its entirety and before deciding if it has any merit. Pleasedo not take my words at face value, as I am no oracle, nor do I have all or evenmany of the answers. Please consider them carefully, though, and ask yourself where you really stand, what you really believe. If you see what I see, though, if you feel as I feel, I beg you to raise your voice with me against a rising tide of poor behavior in our community.Please pardon me for repeating myself or meandering a bit during the course of this thing—it’s not the world’s most carefully crafted statement or an article that’smeant to neatly make a point and then call it a day. What follows is from theheart and is meant to cover everything I could remember from my past and asmuch as possible of my thoughts on the issues I see currently afflicting themartial arts community. I apologize in advance for taking up your time, but thankyou if you are able to put up with with what ended up being a deeply catharticexercise for me.I could have turned this into some blurb or snippet that would appeal to the shortattention span that plagues many of us, but I will not disrespect the suffering of those who have been victimized by doing anything less than my level best tomake crystal clear the fact that we in the Jiu-Jitsu and martial arts communitiesare at a critically important junction. The values and by extension, future, of our community hang in the balance and the direction of our next step is not to bechosen lightly.Every one of us has a dog in this fight.
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    Sam Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge View Post
    Ryan Hall the fucking man!!! Not scared to speak out. :-)

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    thx for sharing, I still need to get to the Gracie Univeristy breakdown video as well.

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    Sam Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by HerbChao View Post
    thx for sharing, I still need to get to the Gracie Univeristy breakdown video as well.

    That sir is a terrific video. Touches on a LOT of things, like training room mentality etc etc. :-)

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    I'm only halfway through this....but it is powerful. He makes some great points man. I have a whole new respect for Ryan Hall. I'm glad he wrote this.

    Thanks again JLB for bringing that good material.

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    Sam Sales

    more from Ryans pdf 'book' haha

    You May Think You Know Your Coach, But You Probably Don’t

    Smiling nicely and paying a kind word at an opportune moment does not a saint
    make. Truth be told, some of the most outwardly charming, personable people I
    have ever met hid a manipulative predator underneath their socially acceptable
    mask. Predators have a way of being very chameleon-esque, altering everything
    about themselves to fit in with society and escape notice until they strike. If you
    could spot them from a mile away, they wouldn’t be very successful, now would
    they? Though it would be great if they would make identifying them a simple
    task, manipulative and amoral people do what they can to avoid acting out in
    ways that are likely to be held against them publicly—if they didn’t, they’d be as
    stupid as anything else, which would probably contribute to making them
    somewhat less of a problem.
    Throughout my entire martial arts career I have been both praised as a relatively
    decent human being, and on some, thankfully less frequent occasions, been
    accused of being a jerk. For a long time I was confused by this, as there are not
    a great many people who know me on the close, personal level which would
    allow for a real assessment. I often wondered why someone would call me a
    great guy simply because I shook their hand, was polite, and didn’t attempt to rob
    or bite them during the five minute window in which we interacted. I also
    wondered why others would assume negative things of me when, to my
    knowledge, I had never wronged them in any way.

    What I came to realize is that we, as students of the martial arts, as people,
    really, become deeply emotionally attached to the idea of a superhuman
    individual or group of individuals who, in our minds, must possess privileged
    knowledge that allows them not only to be an incredible fighter (Or politician? Or
    pastor? Perhaps a high-profile university football coach?), but also a shining
    example of humanity.
    To put things in perspective, I believe that there may be 10 people at my
    academy who actually know me well on a personal level. I would say that I am
    uncharacteristically outspoken and approachable for a school owner, and
    fraternize with my students more than most. That still makes 10 (including my
    girlfriend of 6 years) out of over 250 individuals. How many of them would
    violently defend me were I accused, with droves of evidence (perhaps even my
    own admission of intent as well as the accusations of outright guilt by multiple
    other people involved in the incident), of something heinous? Would they defend
    my character (no matter how blindly), or, robbed of compelling arguments there,
    would they stoop to attempts at discrediting my accusers by callously suggesting,
    without a shred of evidence, that my victims somehow “asked for it.” Would they
    ignore my history if it included numerous slimy moves and shady attempts at
    manipulation (or times I coached others into doing the same)? With my whole
    heart, I hope that the answers are “no” and “absolutely not.” I would be ashamed to be associated with people who possess such an absurdly weak grasp of right
    and wrong, of decency. Then again, I don’t hold myself out as some sort of
    oracle, nor do copies of books on how best to build a cult and manipulate the
    trusting adorn the top of my desk.
    When someone visits or enrolls at my academy, I am incentivized to be a nice
    guy. It’s in my interest both professionally and personally. If you pay me for
    classes and I provide a service to you, it does not follow logically that I am a
    lovely human being. It simply means that I fulfilled our contract and did so in a
    manner that is more likely than not to generate return business. Perhaps you’ll
    stick around for a few years or more, we will share time and experience together,
    develop a real friendship beyond the training room, and you will decide that I am
    a person worthy of your respect. Or perhaps you’ll see things that make you
    decide that I am not. Your decision should not be influenced by gifts I give you or
    speeches I make, though. It should be based on those times you caught me
    when I thought no one was looking. How did I act then? How do I handle my
    employees, some of whom may have no recourse were I to mistreat them? Do
    my interactions with them seem like an actual relationship or more like some tooperfect Truman Show re-run? Do they do a good job and operate professionally,
    or does it extend to being at my beck and call like slaves?

    The reality of life is that we are rarely faced anymore with situations in which it is
    easy to see through to the truth of a person. The world of social media and
    online interaction is an incredible evolution of technology, but in many ways, it
    cheapens us as people. In the eyes of others, we become what we write in a
    fixed number of characters, what we post on a Facebook wall, what we are called
    by other people who themselves likely do not know us on anything approaching a
    close, personal level. Can an individual truly be summed up in such a simplistic
    fashion? What about professional marketers, professional athletes, public
    figures of any kind? Can I even begin to know the character of someone who
    crafts so carefully the face they show to the world? I would think that the
    obvious answer is a resounding, “no.”
    Times of difficulty and those moments when I believe I am untouchable reveal
    my true character. Times when I hold power over you or others and there’s
    nothing you can do about it. Do I hold myself accountable to a greater power of
    any kind? To family or friends (if I have any)? When I err, do I face the music, or
    do I scramble and attempt to obscure the truth?
    Does it follow logically that one is “a great guy” or a “good man who helps
    people” for delivering a product he was paid (financially or otherwise) to deliver
    while simultaneously standing center stage and accepting praise for his actions?
    How does the use of ill-gotten influence to create a pulpit from which to shower
    gifts in an effort to gain favor with the trusting make one the modern-day
    equivalent of Robin Hood? I would submit in both cases that it does not. Amoral
    people in positions of influence are always adept at giving hand outs—it keeps the good guys in check because they’ve been bought and paid for.

    If you want to know what kind of person I am, see what I do when I am starving,
    but so are you. Here you will see the real me, not when I have a steak on my
    plate but am willing to toss you the bone while posing for a photo.
    Never judge a man by what he can do for you (even worse, what he tells you he
    can do for you)—it is a certain path to a poor assessment.

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    Sam Sales

    An Open Letter to the Martial Arts Community

    “The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at
    any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living, and the get
    rich quick theory of life.”
    -- Theodore Roosevelt

    Hello everyone.
    Over the past week, certain revelations have come to light about awful,
    subhuman behavior on the part of a number of members of our community, some
    of whom I know personally.
    The worst of this is certainly the work of some truly reprehensible individuals who
    seem to think that they have the right to destroy the dignity and innocence of
    others in the pathetic service of their own desires. Some of them will hopefully
    bear the full brunt of the justice system’s penalty for the atrocities they have
    committed. Others may not be liable to judgment at the hands of the courts, but
    should in no way be excused for their own disgusting acts both past and recent.
    Somewhat less grievous, but still staggering in its absurd level of insensitivity,
    cultish wagon circling, and revolting lack of perspective has been the response of
    certain individuals who feel the need to blindly defend the actions of those with
    whom they are associated. I cannot say for certain if this is born out of some sort
    of woefully misguided sense of loyalty or if it is simply the basest act of selfpreservation, aimed at protecting a reputation built on the connection to someone
    discovered to be wholly disreputable. Regardless, I would think that the vast
    majority of people should agree that their behavior is beyond repulsive not only
    its dismissiveness of the suffering of the victims involved in this debacle, but also
    in their staunch refusal to exercise the analytical portion of their brains and
    reason for themselves in anything other than a completely self-serving manner.
    Making matters worse, some who would consider themselves “good” people are
    remaining silent, either unable or unwilling to put integrity over solidarity and
    financial interest. They have looked on passively as their associates have
    scrambled to cover their tracks, to duck and dodge inquiry into matters so grave
    that they demand a response. Disappointing. Many will hide behind the “I wasn’t
    there, it’s not my place to say anything” defense. This is a completely
    unacceptable stance given the information in evidence. Their reluctance to act speaks volumes about either their weak character or their already being under
    some level of mental control.
    It has been correctly noted over the course of history that all that is necessary for
    evil to thrive is the indifference or inaction of otherwise decent people. Are we
    really willing to accept this truth and still remain seated?
    As someone who has occupied a number of roles and stations in the martial arts
    community since I first became involved with it, I believe that I may be able to
    shed some light on why things are progressing as they are, as well as provide a
    cautionary tale for others who I hope will be able to avoid the pitfalls that I often
    plunged face-first into due to my naïvely trusting in the good (or at the very least
    neutral) intentions of the people over top of me.

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    i like Ryan but damn that's a long & boring read

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    Ryan Hall

    Final Thoughts

    Integrity, the connective tissue of one’s soul, should not be a salable commodity.
    Once it has been tendered, it is likely gone forever. It can be pursued after the
    fact, but like attempting to repair a shattered vase, it is a highly difficult task and
    rarely is the remake an adequate substitute for what was once whole. Nothing is
    worth your integrity. Not success, not money, not fame. Nothing. Any person
    who asks you to compromise it, no matter the justification, is both morally and
    ethically bankrupt.
    I often wonder what I would be doing right now were I still a part of my old group.
    I would have compromised my values so many times that I would be a different
    man, someone I doubt I would recognize. Would I too be blindly defending
    actions of people I am associated with simply because we wear the same patch,
    doing whatever is necessary in my mind to absolve my guru, and by extension,
    his disciples, of responsibility for their actions? Would I finally look myself in the
    mirror, as I once did, and be so disgusted with my reflection that I wouldn’t know
    what to do? Or would I simply keep my head down and keep pushing towards
    something so completely insignificant when compared to the price I was paying
    spiritually? I honestly don’t know.
    Otherwise reasonable people who are in desperate situations often do desperate
    things. Things like turning to someone peddling a magical fix to their problems.
    Things like believing that the martial arts are an acceptable tool to use to enrich
    one’s self at the expense of the uninformed. Things like aggressively and
    creatively imagining scenarios in their mind that suspend the facts and allow
    them to continue living in their insular, “haters gonna hate” imaginary world
    where neither they nor their master are accountable to anything or anyone for the
    things they do, the things that are done in their name.
    In the past I would have felt only fury at such hideous and reprehensible
    behavior, but now I feel an equal amount of pity for the desperate individuals who
    are too weak to admit to themselves what they surely are sensing in their hearts.
    If there was ever any need for evidence that the martial arts world is at least as
    frail and human (often the negative parts of that word) as everywhere else, there
    is surely none left now.
    Regardless of what some people may attempt to lead us to believe, the ends do
    not justify the means. Please, never forget it. No matter how many times it is
    repeated, failing (allegedly, depending on which story is to be believed) in an
    attempt to do something awful beyond words in no way makes the perpetrator a
    better man than he would have been had he succeeded in completing his task.
    An attempted murderer is no better than a successful one—he’s just a worse
    shot. Intent is the foundation of character, ladies and gentlemen.
    Even knowing what I know now, I, too, was almost foolish enough to stay quiet.
    Due to the proximity I have to some of the principals of a current horror story
    (subhuman or just grossly misguided, depending on the individual) and the public
    perception of the nature of my past with them, I had hoped others would speak
    out and my voice would not be needed. Only a few did, but those who were
    brave enough to offer their thoughts did so eloquently and forcefully, standing up
    for what they believe in, what they know to be right. Others bravely and correctly
    took their leave from affiliation with individuals whom they could no longer in
    good conscience support. I would be ashamed to let them stand alone.
    Sometimes it seems like justice has left the world, like it is only for some, and
    even then only when the stars align properly. I believe this is because the
    average person thinks it is someone else’s job to keep bad behavior in line. I
    dispute that. We all have a responsibility to do the right thing, to see that good
    people are supported and negativity squashed as often as it can be. A man once
    said to me, “Ryan, as long as people feel like they got what they wanted, that’s
    enough for me.” That line of thinking was as broken then as it is now.
    If I stick my head in the sand when I hear something ugly, I am complicit in the
    ugliness. It is my business to know with whom I am dealing. This is not only our
    community—it is our world. The version of it we pass on to our children will
    greatly depend on the actions we take before they arrive. Would we have them
    live in one where people who dodge justice continue on to foster poisonous
    attitudes in their disciples—the same disciples who accuse victims of “asking for
    it” or being a “dirty whore” because they are too scared to brave the world without
    the security blanket of their equally misguided buddies’ approval? I should think
    not.
    Don’t buy into the materialistic, morally vacant way of life that is peddled to us
    each day by media and advertisers. Be something more. Be the change you
    want to see in the world. There is nothing wrong with having a balanced
    worldview and values that are not dominated by ego gratification and selfaggrandizement. Twitter followers and Facebook likes do not validate your
    existence. Your actions in the world, not your tournament victories or opponents
    defeated in a game of wrestling determine your value as a person. Don’t allow
    yourself to be seduced into believing that there is something wrong with an
    individual who holds more dearly their dignity than their medals, than their bank
    account.

    Teachers: A true leader creates other leaders. He desires not to dominate those
    around him, but to uplift them. Not to uplift them for his own benefit, his own
    aggrandizement, but because it is the right thing to do. A real leader doesn’t
    want disciples. A real leader hopes for friends who respect him for being a
    decent human being above all. After all, what other reason is there to follow
    someone?

    Students: Trust your gut. We all have an internal compass that pushes us in the
    right direction, that guides to where we are supposed to be. Listen to it. Do not
    permit yourself to pull a gold medal high beam routine to justify staying in a place
    or with a person when your intuition tells you something isn't right. I did once for
    too long and still bear the scars.
    Cultists: You may become angry with me, attempt to assassinate my character,
    question my right to speak, accuse me of lying, or even threaten me. One day,
    though, I hope you will grow emotionally enough to find the perspective you need
    to see how shameful and weak, though still painfully understandable, your
    behavior is. If you do, please find the strength to tell your story to others so that
    they may be spared the mistakes you’ve made.
    If these words have touched you in some way and you want to act but don’t know
    how to proceed, here are some suggestions:
    1. Learn:
    Familiarize yourself with the news stories that are circulating and the
    associated commentary. Visit a website like http://www.rainn.org to learn
    more about the real effects of sexual assault on individuals, on families, on
    society. Read up on cult behavior. Forewarned is forearmed.
    2. Pay attention:
    If you have a sneaking suspicion that some of what I have said applies to
    you or your training situation—or anywhere else in your life, for that
    matter—face the discomfort instead of rationalizing it away. Pay attention
    to how you feel and to how people are acting. Consider how consistent
    these feelings and actions are with what you know to be right and wrong.
    3. Ask:
    If you aren’t sure anymore that you know what’s right and what’s wrong,
    get a reality check about your situation, from people outside your
    academy. Whom do you have access to who is known to have integrity?
    Be honest: would your grandmother be proud of the place you call your
    martial arts home? Even solicit the opinions of people you have
    considered “haters” in the past. Be open to their comments. (The fact
    that it will be incredibly difficult to do so means you’re on the right track.)
    4. Stand up:
    Make sure your actions support your words. If you see inappropriatebehavior or wrongdoing, name it and tell those in question that you insist
    on better, from everyone around you, including yourself. Say it as often as
    necessary and follow up with corresponding behavior. If changes are not
    made, have the conviction to act, to associate only with those who you
    can respect for their integrity.
    5. Find support:
    It will not be easy or fun to address these issues. Don’t do it alone. Find
    others, either in or outside of the group, who can assure you of your
    sanity. Do not let doubts and fears derail you. Your soul may hang in the
    balance.
    6. Provide support:
    If you have a strong moral compass, a supportive social system of which
    your team is ONE part, and a healthily balanced life, pay it forward to
    someone who may not be there yet. Provide perspective, discretion, and
    encouragement.
    7. Keep perspective:
    No matter how important the activities we participate in may seem, they
    will never be a substitute for the truly valuable things in life: character,
    friends, and family—the people who will love and care for you
    unconditionally, regardless of how much money you’re making them, how
    many tournaments you’re winning, or how carefully you obey their edicts.
    Anyone willing to encourage a rift between you and those who truly love
    you obviously does not have your best interests at heart.

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