Can Opener... kosher or no?

[RayLie]

I've never been great at breaking the feet open in a training partner's guard, but lately I've been finding some success using the can opener. I've had it done to me in the past, but started fine tuning how I use it after watching an Erick Paulson dvd. No one at my gym has complained to me, but I wanna double check w/the forum on how the technique is viewed by the BJJ community.

[Arun Sharma]

I used to use that before but i think it dsnt work well with more flexible and wrestlers, i think you saw the CSW series DVD

[Wade Hamilton]

My gym it's a no go... Isn't it illegal in most BJJ tournaments. It's a probably a good technique to learn and perfect for street and for if you're doing MMA. I dunno... If everyone at your gym is educated on it and they don't have a problem I don't see why not. Just don't develop any habits of using it in a BJJ tournament where its illegal.

[Louis Ho]

Definitely a no no in my books.

[Mick Broster]

a no no in my books, but not for the neck crank reason but because it sets up armbar counters.
in my eyes any move that has you reaching up to someones head while inside their guard should be avoided most of the time

[Jay Chow]

No kosher. It's a douche move, but it's also illegal at IBJJF tournaments, including two hands on the head to tighten the triangle. There are much better options than the Can Opener, such as learning how to break the guys guard.

[Brandon Woolsey]

This is def a nogo, and it also illegal in every tourney that I have been to(non-ibjjf).

[Jeremy Gates]

I don't use it from guard but find myself using it a
Bit when passing. Ill go to pass and he will Basicly
Pop up Into butterfly, I usually grab the head and neck , can opener for a second and switch to a guillotine or darce and then pass.

[Brandon Mccaghren]

I use it sometimes. It's no more of a shady move than the twister, in my opinion. It's a neck crank. We play and encourage a rule set that says every submission should be allowed; that includes neck cranks.

That having been said, if you aren't very aware and sensitive to the dangers it's incredibly easy to counter.

[Chris Herzog]

I don't have an issue with it, like Brandon said its an easy counter, and guys will experience it in competitions, best to learn and deal with it in the gym first.