Worry about Points or go for the Sub?

[Tori Applegate]

I don't see the point in training for a competition, paying a hundred dollars for it and then sometimes having to drive several hours to the venue if you're not there to finish. I want to submit every opponent I compete against, as fast as possible, regardless of whether I'm winning or losing on points. The ultimate goal to me, is to roll in tournaments the same way I do in the gym. Sacrificing top position for a potential finish, never stalling and just generally having a good time.

I like this outlook sir. Very solid.

[James O'Brien II]

Tournaments that award points for submission attempts, like NAGA, are only awarding you for failing. The award for a submission attempt should be a submission victory.

NAGA gives you points for failing. . .

See you this weekend, NAGA. Grr.

I am the type of competitor that knows what is realistic and when I go for a submission. Which I always do. Just at the perfect time. I finish that submission more times than they escape. -- I finish a lot more than they escape my submission attempts actually. I keep in mind I don't want to go for a poor submission and burn my arms out. Etc.

[Tori Applegate]

Sounds like you're the man.

[James O'Brien II]

Lol. Sorry. I was kind of talking to myself.

I wanted to bring up the point that NAGA awards you for failing at submissions.
I've never competed at NAGA before. I'll be there this weekend though.
I'm just curious to see if this style of scoring will effect me.

[Jonrivello]

jiu jitsu was founded on being submission only, thats why all the gracies wound up with hour long matches because they thought fuck points as well.

[James O'Brien II]

jiu jitsu was founded on being submission only, thats why all the gracies wound up with hour long matches because they thought fuck points as well.

I believe their applications were more self defense oriented.

Sport Jiu-Jitsu. Points are awesome.

Like: How many points would Matt Hughes have gotten for the position he scored on Royce Gracie??

[bobby rivers]

What division will you be entering James?

[James O'Brien II]

What division will you be entering James?

129.9 lb Men's NoGi Expert Division