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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent Smith View Post
    #1 Stomp, Super Stomp, or New Stomp.
    That is exactly what I need to drill

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    I'm sure other people can offer better advice on this. I only have one thing I do here. ( I am assuming you had control of your opponents right leg and he was attacking your left arm?) If so, the first thing I do is damage control on my left arm (the arm he is attacking). Ideally I can grap my hand or wrist to keep my forearem close to my chest. If I can't get that, I will grap by bicep like I was doing a RNC. After that, I give up my lockdown. Because my opponent is putting a lot of weight on my arm, his legs and hips are relatively light. Once my lockdown is released, I straighten my legs and bring my right leg underneath his right leg so I have conceded side control (basically, I am sliding my right leg under his leg so it is no longer inbetween his legs). At that point, I sit up and turn to my left side at the same time. Because my hips are so closed to his hips, and his base is far forward attacking my arm, I have a easy time sweeping him, and once I'm on top, I have an easy time preventing him from america-ing me. For me the overall motion is similar to the transition from quarter guard to the dog fight, or maybe more similar to the motion when you do the hip bump sweep from the closed guard. I am sitting up and then rotating my body as if I wanted to go belly down, that has the effect of bumping my opponent off of me and I land on top. I hope this makes sense, I can try to explain it better...

    for the gi game, I only think there could be a bow/arrow type choke if he went twister pass (i.e. a gi substitute for arm tri angle from the bottom
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    When guys try to Americana from inside the lockdown, I prefer to whip down. That relieves the pressure of the Americana and opens up the 5-0 series of options.

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    Yeah that might be slightly more simple It seems like when you whip down it gets easier it is to reclaim your arm
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    Quote Originally Posted by VIVIANO View Post
    I'm sure other people can offer better advice on this. I only have one thing I do here. ( I am assuming you had control of your opponents right leg and he was attacking your left arm?) If so, the first thing I do is damage control on my left arm (the arm he is attacking). Ideally I can grap my hand or wrist to keep my forearem close to my chest. If I can't get that, I will grap by bicep like I was doing a RNC. After that, I give up my lockdown. Because my opponent is putting a lot of weight on my arm, his legs and hips are relatively light. Once my lockdown is released, I straighten my legs and bring my right leg underneath his right leg so I have conceded side control (basically, I am sliding my right leg under his leg so it is no longer inbetween his legs). At that point, I sit up and turn to my left side at the same time. Because my hips are so closed to his hips, and his base is far forward attacking my arm, I have a easy time sweeping him, and once I'm on top, I have an easy time preventing him from america-ing me. For me the overall motion is similar to the transition from quarter guard to the dog fight, or maybe more similar to the motion when you do the hip bump sweep from the closed guard. I am sitting up and then rotating my body as if I wanted to go belly down, that has the effect of bumping my opponent off of me and I land on top. I hope this makes sense, I can try to explain it better...

    for the gi game, I only think there could be a bow/arrow type choke if he went twister pass (i.e. a gi substitute for arm tri angle from the bottom
    this might be a little too advanced for me but I'll try to figure it out next time I drill. Thanks so much for all the information.

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    Hey Luis, I've had exactly the same problems the last few weeks and here is what has worked for me fwiw-

    problem #1: the Godfather to full guard recovery, but in any event when Jaws won't happen I immediately overhook the opponent's underhook and pimp arm the hip on the other side, this at least relieves the pressure if they are smashing their shoulder into my jaw. Also prevents an Americana or Ezekiel attempt bc at least my arms aren't in the wrong place.

    problem #2: the lockdown when applied correctly hurts, no two ways about it, which either makes the opponent compliant or angry. I've had a couple angry guys crank the Americana or straight armlock as I squeeze the lockdown harder from off my back; no good. The lockdown is no defense to arms being in the wrong place or being flattened. If I find myself losing and get into an americana battle I will abandon the lockdown and Heisman the opponent's armpit to escape the submission attempt.

    problem #3: In the gi especially I like to Whip Down and head into the 5 0 series since there is a sleeve there to grab for the 5 0 sweep, which makes it easier. I actually find guys in the gi are less savvy to what is happening in lockdown… in fairness my gi partners do not typically cross train in no-gi.

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    Lockdown flow chart!

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    I try to work different options, so I don't care if I have the underhooks or not.
    If they have over under I go to stomp. If I have double unders I whip, and if I can't whip them I go for prison guard, just as a way to practice three different broad paths with variations. (I'm not good at this mind you, I'm just trying to learn) :}

    Earlier I tried to get double unders, that was my go to. So jaws of life, but if it doesn't work I just whip down!
    Sometimes I gamble, so I let go of the lockdown and bridge hard..! I haven't expirienced anyone yet that didn't post nd give me the underhook. The whip down is golden! Underhooks every day! Diclaimer: The guys I rolled with were medium level, its' still instincual tho.

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    "Sometimes I gamble, so I let go of the lockdown and bridge hard..! I haven't expirienced anyone yet that didn't post nd give me the underhook. The whip down is golden! Underhooks every day!"


    ^ helpful- thank you!

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    I had a class mate that would crush me when I had my lockdown in. Jaws of life would never work, he's just too strong. I then started doing the stomp sequences, BUT if you wanna keep working on the lockdown, the only thing that worked on my classmate was before I'd pull half guard and lockdown, I'd be more conscious of my arm placement. For example, I'd make sure my left arm was in position to get the underhook before establishing lockdown. If it wasn't in position, I'd bail and so something else. Like master eddie says, lockdown won't always work so you just need to work on alternatives.

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