Entry into rubber guard from lockdown

[tony_toffolo]

This is exactly what I was going to say... yeah you have to stomp and go into the butterfly 1st. threatening them with the butterfly will open them up for the full guard. The butterfly is the link between lockdown and full guard.

along with posture control (assuming you haven kept the overhook)

[Chris Herzog]

So I guys what you're saying is, it's difficult, but with the proper details, it's possible.

Its not only possible its and actual technique in the system. Theres an early epsisode of eddie teaching the flying kung fu/free New York from lockdown.

[Martin.Harris]

At work don't have time to think on this yet but just curious.. Can you go lockdown, stomp, ghost? And if so would that be considered an inferior path? Line of thinking is getting out from under someone much bigger.

[Ross Davidson]

Its not only possible its and actual technique in the system. Theres an early epsisode of eddie teaching the flying kung fu/free New York from lockdown.

Really?! I'm going to have to try and find that then.

[Brandon Mccaghren]

Meat Hook from Lockdown. Big part of what I do personally.

If they take the underhook, I try to transition my bottom knee out and work towards a Meat Hook. Easier than you think.

[sean applegate]

Whizzers pimp is how you make them pay for trying to do the right thing. From lock down to RG.

[sean applegate]

Whizzer*

[Isaac Atley]

so im just thinking that a carni and would still be the best bet. if you cant get the JOL and you want to get to the foot on hip you mgiht want to think about brandons oprah move. you might not have to get the foot on the knee but getting your leg into the oprah position is easier and is also a tight move. and would possibly allow you to get more control to move them back and get into full guard etc.

even if they have JOL if you aim at getting on your side then it all becomes easier.

free new yorks/ chill dogs and kung fus are everywhere though.

[Ross Davidson]

Whizzers pimp is how you make them pay for trying to do the right thing. From lock down to RG.

So are you saying that what I'm describing is called the whizzer pimp?

I'm gonna have to play with that, Brandon.

[sean applegate]

Yea, you described a whizzer pimp. It's a 10p fundamental basic. Whizzer the arm and keep your pimp arm strong on the other side. Shrimp and get the knee in and bam! RG