Whooaaa Royce threatened Eddie?

[jkenneth]

My interactions with Royce have left me with this undeniable truth

If you have money and no questions you get the Royce the legend

If you don't have money and have questions

You get Royce the c$&t

Never have a met a bigger pile of acai scented shit in my 30 years on this earth
So this doesn't surprise me one bit

This is 100% true!
Met Royce twice at seminars in the late 90s.
Arrogant is all I can say.
I paid a couple hundred dollars for each seminar and he acted like he was put out to be there.
Forget about asking him a question or approaching him in any way.
Rorion on the other had was extremely nice and very cordial.
Royce's biggest fan is himself.
Eddie would put him in a wheelchair.
Royce really shouldn't be threatening anybody past blue belt. Lol
After his BJJ match against Wallid Ismael in the late 90s (where he was put to sleep by Wallid in an arena in Brazil), Wallid commented that he was surprised at Royce's poor performance and said even blue belts should have been able to defend the choke he used.
It's Sad. A lot of people got into BJJ because of Royce. It's like he is trying everything he can to poison his legacy.
Really disappointing behavior.
If the Gracie name were a stock, the price would be plummeting right now.
I am hoping that Eddie's display of skill, effectiveness of 10th Planet and extreme level of sportsmanship will help serve that family (Helios side anyway) some humble pie!
Well done Eddie. You've made us all proud!!!!!

[Mike Nall]

I think Royler was smiling to mask his terror, not cause he was having fun. Maybe I just read things wrong but it didn't seem friendly at all. It actually seemed pretty heated and intense to me.

That's also how I saw it. 100%

[jkenneth]

I wonder if Royler is hobbling around today?
I bet it was a rough morning.

[duanebenton]

was going to go to a Royce seminar in CT. Guess not now, Efff that dude.

[David Rosado]

I'm guessing it was Royce taking "I'm a Gracie" out of context.

Then there is this comment attached to that article that left me thinking...

"The Helio branch of the Gracie family does not want Carlos Gracie to get credit for BJJ especially named before Helio. They want all the credit for BJJ for Helio and for people to forget that Carlos was Helio's teacher. Look at Royler's expression change as soon as Eddie said Carlos's name. "

Even more irony, I just read 8 pages of comments on that article.....I'd say about 95% of the people are supporting Eddie!

Karma.

One thing to keep in mind is that the last name Gracie encompasses a HUGE family tree. Not all of them will share the same opinions and, like many of our families, contain a lot of drama a closed-door issues. Please keep that in mind and don't condemn all for he actions of the few.

That's probably it. Some of the Gracie's try to portray Helio Gracie as the creator of BJJ. He was important to the evolution of the game but he didn't create it. He never even trained with Mitsuyo Maeda. He learned from Carlos, Gustavo, Jorge and Gastao Gracie. I read in an interview with Renzo where if any one person could be called the creator of BJJ it's Rolls Gracie. I really wish we had a transparent history of sport.

Exactly what I think it is. I've been noticing this for a while. Some schools have Carlos Gracie's pic up. Some have Helio. Rarely do you see both. And the Helio side seems to be very cultish about Helio worship. Maybe Eddie didn't realize that was a sore spot and thought he was thanking the Gracies and instead of taking the compliment, they probably saw it as a jab like Eddie was saying Carlos' lineage is better than Helio's. That's my guess. They're a sensitive bunch those Helio guys.

[DanConway]

Every story of a Royce seminar i've heard has been like this. Always tales of him ignoring questions, showing nothing but classic basics, and being so arrogant he can't be bothered to do what hes there for. It's always a dig when someone you grew up hespetching turns out to be a clown....

[jkenneth]

Every story of a Royce seminar i've heard has been like this. Always tales of him ignoring questions, showing nothing but classic basics, and being so arrogant he can't be bothered to do what hes there for. It's always a dig when someone you grew up hespetching turns out to be a clown....

+1!!!

[Aaron Gustaveson]

I think Royler was smiling to mask his terror, not cause he was having fun. Maybe I just read things wrong but it didn't seem friendly at all. It actually seemed pretty heated and intense to me.

That was my take as well.

[DanConway]

Quote Originally Posted by Chris Herzog View Post
Then there is this comment attached to that article that left me thinking...

"The Helio branch of the Gracie family does not want Carlos Gracie to get credit for BJJ especially named before Helio. They want all the credit for BJJ for Helio and for people to forget that Carlos was Helio's teacher. Look at Royler's expression change as soon as Eddie said Carlos's name. "

THIS! You saw his face DROP the moment eddie said it. And when they exchanged words afterward, I assumed it was relative to this.... It looked like an intense exchange of words rather than the 'good match' attitude there was a moment prior.... Then when I heard the royce thing, I wondered if it was becuase of the comment....

[Sam Sales]

Wish Eddie had of slapped the shit outta Royce. He is still talking shit today. Apparently 'Royler dominated him so much he made him throw up'. Erm, Ok then, Royce may be a legend but he is also one monumental fucking dickhead, and a fucking delusional one at that.