I only got to feel this a couple times before my injury but the counters being offered aren't as easy of a solution as they sound. At least I never found them to be when comparing to a similar situation of the opponent stuffing your leg and pressure passing in New Jersey.
First, double bagger just doesn't apply. You're in New Jersey and he has ahold of your leg. If he has a good hold, you're not getting back to full guard.
When you're in New Jersey and the opponent is pressuring forward, stuffing the leg properly, it's really hard to play any of the Kung fu options. You have to be able to both get the angle and bring your leg with you. Many times they will also have your stuffed leg pinched between their knees as well as a tight grip with their arm. It's also hard to hold back an aggressive passer in New Jersey with meat hook. I see good RG players have a hard time with this situation all the time when going against a higher level opponent or an explosive wrestler type who keeps tight and has a strong hold of the leg while passing.
He's going to have the same factors going for him in this pass variation as dealing with an opponent trying to pressure pass. The only option I found a high percentage of success with against higher level opponents in this sort of situation was Hindu control. It stops the pass option, doesn't let them back out when caught in a sub, and it will stop his ability to roll with this variation. He will also be practically handing you the hindulotine by lowering his head to the mat for the roll.
That said, you're going to have to beat him to the punch and get to Hindu control before he rolls. I see this pass successfully working against Kung fu options and meat hooks which is most current RG players games in New Jersey. Especially if he adds the detail of putting his head down up near your armpit instead of your waist as this would make the carni option that much harder.
First, double bagger just doesn't apply. You're in New Jersey and he has ahold of your leg. If he has a good hold, you're not getting back to full guard.
When you're in New Jersey and the opponent is pressuring forward, stuffing the leg properly, it's really hard to play any of the Kung fu options. You have to be able to both get the angle and bring your leg with you. Many times they will also have your stuffed leg pinched between their knees as well as a tight grip with their arm. It's also hard to hold back an aggressive passer in New Jersey with meat hook. I see good RG players have a hard time with this situation all the time when going against a higher level opponent or an explosive wrestler type who keeps tight and has a strong hold of the leg while passing.
He's going to have the same factors going for him in this pass variation as dealing with an opponent trying to pressure pass. The only option I found a high percentage of success with against higher level opponents in this sort of situation was Hindu control. It stops the pass option, doesn't let them back out when caught in a sub, and it will stop his ability to roll with this variation. He will also be practically handing you the hindulotine by lowering his head to the mat for the roll.
That said, you're going to have to beat him to the punch and get to Hindu control before he rolls. I see this pass successfully working against Kung fu options and meat hooks which is most current RG players games in New Jersey. Especially if he adds the detail of putting his head down up near your armpit instead of your waist as this would make the carni option that much harder.
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Originally Posted by Ericp
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