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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Ludington View Post
    Brandon loves me...
    I love you all..

    with that being said;

    I would absolutely "use roids".
    There's a documentary on Netflix called Bigger, Stronger, Faster..

    check it out on youtube here's a link to part one
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApmX8Q0vqKI
    "Blame the IBJJF when, in 30 years you see an academy that nails the phrase, "A Red belt is a Junior black belt that hasn't died yet" on the far wall."

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    Chris sucks. I hate him.
    "The lockdown is not the 10th Planet gospel; an open mind is the 10th Planet gospel."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren View Post
    Chris sucks. I hate him.
    Nobody believes you Brandon... You have crappy poker face.... (no typos there).
    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo View Post
    You a bad mutha fucka Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Ludington View Post
    Haven't read the comments, probably won't. But yes. I would absolutely "use roids".
    There's a documentary on Netflix called Bigger, Stronger, Faster..

    Youtube
    I think Brandon already linked it in a post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Kietzman View Post
    I think Brandon already linked it in a post.
    No way! That sonofabitch!
    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo View Post
    You a bad mutha fucka Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Ludington View Post
    No way! That sonofabitch!
    He's a slippery one. I dont trust his shifty eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Kietzman View Post
    He's a slippery one. I dont trust his shifty eyes.
    You are wise not to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo View Post
    You a bad mutha fucka Chris

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    The "cheating" argument doesn't hold water, empirically, unless you mean cheating against the specific rules of a specific governing body. Cheating against "nature", or implying there is a moral issue is laughable, at best.

    The only real, tangible concern with testosterone supplementation is both short-term and long-term side effects, which usually (and maybe completely) only occur when you exceed normal physiological levels. I know many, many guys who have supplemented with testosterone for years, and they have had zero meaningful side effects. They get regular bloodwork, do their PCT, eat well, exercise, etc.

    I've taken one injection of test prop a couple of years ago or so, and it was great. For those who think it gives you some other-worldly advantage, you are misinformed. Although it can directly affect strength, endurance, recovery, etc., the effects are typically not as drastic as you might imagine. They're banned in strength and bodybuilding sports (or at least relegated to tested v non-tested divisions) because they have a direct effect on the outcome of the event, insofar that a slightly better body composition or 20lbs more on your deadlift can mean the difference between winning and losing.

    With grappling in particular, as you should know, a slight strength advantage is only one of a myriad of factors that creates success. I advocate for responsible use.

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    I don't think it's cheating. I think guys that grapple and have a strength or size advantage on most people naturally, get butthurt about them really easy because they lose that advantage. There are always going to be guys out there who are bigger, stronger, faster etc. get over it and learn how to beat it. You don't hear Marcelo and rafa complaining about people using, right?

    Now as far as regular people using it, why not? It can help people with low test levels. It can be used to help people. If my test levels were low and threatening to keep me off the mats, I'd take try or whatever I could to get back on the mats in a heart beat.

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    I happen to work at a hormone replacement clinic for men in Studio City

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