infinite electricity?

[chronic_jiujitsu]

alright people.. im in the mood to have my hopes and dreams crushed and i dont know anyone better to do it that you guys (its a compliment i'll explain later).. So anyway.. I was just wondering.. If you were to take a windmill.. and on the tips of each blade put magnets angled off at whatever angle, with all the (we'll just say north) ends facing out. Then put one ring around the blades (similar to the way those protective cages go around fans).. in which you have more magnets angled to repel the blades in a circle due to magnetic repulsion... creating electricity.. and then using what electricity you create to charge the magnets with a quick jolt every few years or so (depending on the magnets and how long it takes them to lose stability).. so that they will constantly remain "charged" while creating excess electricity to use on whatever you might find a need for it. Anyway.. it may not work at all.. but i figured with all you science freaks on here you could tell me why this would/wouldnt work. idk.. it makes sense in my head.

[derrick ikwueme]

it makes since, direct the magnetic field to assist the wind turbine. wind fields & solar fields spanning the plains could work, farmer subsidies ect. but political childishness delays adults from making any progress. ask Nikola Tesla about the car that drove with no engine

[Jason Hyatt]

Thermodynamics. You can never extract more energy from a system than you put in. If you use electromagnets then you will always have a net loss of energy. Let's say it requires X amount of electricity to charge the magnets and you are able to generate Y amount of power from the windmill. In addition to power generation you also have a loss of kinetic energy due to friction (in the moving parts, from the air, etc) and a loss of energy due to heat. Because of those losses Y<X so you will always require more power to keep the magnets on than they are capable of generating.

[chronic_jiujitsu]

But thats why i was using magnets because they dont actually use energy as they work. they dont work like batteries.. They just repel each other beccause they are opposite poles. and after awhile the electromagnetic field/wall becomes distorted and doesnt repel as effectively. but with tiny bits of charge the poles will align again perfectly until 10 years later when its field is distorted again.

[Danny "Maverick" Vasquez]

hhmmm, im no scientist... but this reminds me a little bit of what they call magnetism... similar to the alternator in our cars... im sure someone can explain further. but just like derrick i. mentioned above... someone would buy out the copyright and simply discard it... similar to how arco bmp bought out the car that ran on water/hydrogen in order for the world to be reliable on their fuel.. nice thinking though... dont give up on your idea though till someone proves you otherwise.

[Jason Mallory]

Electricity should be abundant and FREE. Look up Nikola Tesla.

[Jimmie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6wVwYYZqeg I dont know a lot about this but it looks pretty amazing. There is a lot to read about it

[Jon Watkins]

Everyone who proposes a Zero Point energy idea is written off as a quack because nobody can make money off it, (Nikola Tesla included) so be glad you're already ready to have your hopes and dreams crushed.

[Jason Hyatt]

Thermodynamics:

http://www.physicsplanet.com/article...thermodynamics

http://library.thinkquest.org/C00601...ermo2.php3?v=2


Conservation of energy:

http://library.thinkquest.org/2745/data/lawce1.htm


Lent'z Law (conservation of magnetic flux):

http://www.suite101.com/content/unde...nzs-law-a54846


Conservation of charge:

http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~scdiroff...nofCharge.html


...you can't get somethin' for nothin'.

[Jason Mallory]

This talks a little bit about Tesla's discovery.

http://educate-yourself.org/fe/radiantenergystory.shtml