yeah ummm i think i'll pull guard

[AndyK5]

Can you legally pull a 5 point throw in grappling tournaments?

[Tyler Timmermans]

Can you legally pull a 5 point throw in grappling tournaments?

you can't slam so i guess if you let them go during it then it is all right

[Luis Acherbo]

my wrestling coach did greco in college and taught me a whole lot of stuff i love throws from the clinch i suck at shooting in

[Andrew Maxwell]

[AndyK5]

Is this what wrestlers listen to while training?

[JeffRace727]

Judo is way better than greco. not matter what anyone says. Judo you don't have to waste your energy scrambling around hugging people for 10 minutes, you just wait till your opponent is off balance or putting his weight towards your and BAM!

[Andrew Maxwell]

Judo is way better than greco. not matter what anyone says. Judo you don't have to waste your energy scrambling around hugging people for 10 minutes, you just wait till your opponent is off balance or putting his weight towards your and BAM!

How's it better? It's the same thing? Greco is like no-gi judo? Plus for a greco throw it doesn't matter what the other guy is wearing all throws still apply and greco is definately more affective for MMA hands down since there is no gi's in MMA. It's also more affective for no-gi if you're good in the clinch and good with duck unders, that can take you strait to the back attack. Also i've never witnessed 10 minutes of hugging and scarmbling in a match usually, a hug transitions into a throw and as for wasting energy, wrestlers are the hardest working athletes they have the energy to burn.

[Jack LaBarge]

How's it better? It's the same thing? Greco is like no-gi judo? Plus for a greco throw it doesn't matter what the other guy is wearing all throws still apply and greco is definately more affective for MMA hands down since there is no gi's in MMA. It's also more affective for no-gi if you're good in the clinch and good with duck unders, that can take you strait to the back attack. Also i've never witnessed 10 minutes of hugging and scarmbling in a match usually, a hug transitions into a throw and as for wasting energy, wrestlers are the hardest working athletes they have the energy to burn.

+1

[JeffRace727]

How's it better? It's the same thing? Greco is like no-gi judo? Plus for a greco throw it doesn't matter what the other guy is wearing all throws still apply and greco is definately more affective for MMA hands down since there is no gi's in MMA. It's also more affective for no-gi if you're good in the clinch and good with duck unders, that can take you strait to the back attack. Also i've never witnessed 10 minutes of hugging and scarmbling in a match usually, a hug transitions into a throw and as for wasting energy, wrestlers are the hardest working athletes they have the energy to burn.

Believe it or not man, no-gi judo is not a myth, it's real! Also got to remember that Judo also teaches you HOW To submit people. Where do you think all these submissions came from? Where do you think the lockdown came from? JUDO. Judo is a real complete grappling art, unlike greco roman.True they are hard working athletes but I'm sure not all of them are hard working just cause they do greco roman wreslting. Maybe not ten minutes of hugging but I've seen enough "greco roman" lay and pray to last me a life time.

[Andrew Maxwell]

Believe it or not man, no-gi judo is not a myth, it's real! Also got to remember that Judo also teaches you HOW To submit people. Where do you think all these submissions came from? Where do you think the lockdown came from? JUDO. Judo is a real complete grappling art, unlike greco roman.True they are hard working athletes but I'm sure not all of them are hard working just cause they do greco roman wreslting. Maybe not ten minutes of hugging but I've seen enough "greco roman" lay and pray to last me a life time.

First off, don't get me wrong I like Judo and have nothing bad to say about it, I'm just defending greco. Now, as for submissions there are lots of submissions that come from wrestling, such as the twister which is a move wrestlers call a guillotine and wrestlers also use alot of different chokes to control the head, just watch Hughes vs. Almeida. Not to mention even wrestling greats like Dan Gable traces his wrestling roots back to old catch wrestlers like Karl Gotch, Billy Riley, and Billy Robinson who trained MMA fighters like Kazushi Sakuraba and Josh Barnett. Lastly, there is no such thing as lay and pray in greco-roman wrestling, thats called passivity and results in penalty. Lay and pray exists in MMA and yes some wrestlers do use it as a tactic to nullify there opponents game, but don't blame the wrestler for doing what the rules allow. Either the rules need to change and give passivity penalties to for those tactics, or fighters need to learn to stand up, defend takedowns, or find ways to force submissions on dominate wrestlers. The fighter being layed and prayed on is as much to blame for the boring fight as the one doing the lay and pray.