Reverse Kesa vs Twister Side?

[David Rosado]

The way I learned twister side, you have your hip on their biceps with your lower back smashing their face. The way I learned reverse kesa, you have your hip on the mat, knee to the hip, weight across their chest/diaphragm.

But recently Eddie said on MTS that it's the same thing. Am I tripping? I feel like saying it's the same thing is kind of like saying rubber guard is high guard. I mean, sure, technically, but it's still it's own unique positions with it's own unique attacks. For years I've told people that reverse kesa and TSC are similar but different.

Eddie, am I just being a stickler for no reason?

[Chris Herzog]

Ushiro Kesa Gatame:

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Twister Side Control:

[Chris Herzog]

They are most defiantly uniquely their own, however I'd be willing to say TSC is a version of a Reverse Scarf Hold, but not all Reverse Scarf Holds are Twister Side Control.

[Chris Herzog]

This video far exceeded my exceptions of finding a video showing the differences. Its a solid video of Judo newaza, showing several variations of Ushiro Kesa Gatame

[David Rosado]

Awesome responses. Thanks coach!