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    What do you call the calf slicer that Charles Olivera Hit?

    Hello,

    I am referring to the calf slicer Charles Olivera his in MMA as seen here :

    https://streamable.com/qk585

    Do you refer to it by a specific name ? Rener Gracie di a breakdown on it calling it the reverse calf slicer but thats the only time I heard it called that ?

    Cheers

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    If Rener Gracie called it a reverse calf slicer then that is what it is. Don't doubt Rener Gracie.

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    Ham Sandwich. I love that technique

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    I did not know the name to now. I try to hit it off half imanary (how ever you spell it) roll.

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    Knee crush, calf slicer, the Olivera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Wilhelm View Post
    Ham Sandwich. I love that technique
    It's not a Ham Sandwich.
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    Far be it for me to question Herzog, but every result I can find on the internet for Ham Sandwich shows this submission. Some of them are finishing from diferent angles, but the core concept appears to be exactly the same. Even a video from 10P Rochester itself shows Alder Hampel instructing the Ham Sandwich, and the only difference seems to be that it isn't set up from your opponent spiraling out of Ashi. Where am I missing the boat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Wilhelm View Post
    Far be it for me to question Herzog, but every result I can find on the internet for Ham Sandwich shows this submission. Some of them are finishing from diferent angles, but the core concept appears to be exactly the same. Even a video from 10P Rochester itself shows Alder Hampel instructing the Ham Sandwich, and the only difference seems to be that it isn't set up from your opponent spiraling out of Ashi. Where am I missing the boat?
    The ham sandwich ends with opponents facing each other. The line created by the knee and ankle is closer to perpendicular to the body than parallel. The finish can be applied whist standing in your opponents guard.

    The lock that Olivera did, ends up with a front to back situation. The knee and ankle form a line almost parallel to the spine. The finish can be applied whilst attempting a RNC.

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    For example

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    As Brian said, Ham sandwich is chest to chest. Chest to back in Jermmiah's video is not a ham sandwich.
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