24 year old dies from rear naked choke

[Chris Herzog]

[David Rosado]

cold blooded. LOOOL.

[Chris Herzog]

Not cold blooded at all, just logical. Two idiots fucking around with shit they don't comprehend, wtf did they think would happen.

If you give two chimps a loaded pistol, one of them if not both end up dead in a short time.

Its evolution, survival of the fittest. We are still an animal species combating for room on this planet. Population control, simple.

[David Rosado]

No you're right. My bad, I quote Chappelle's show all the time. That was just a Chappelle line. I don't think you're being cold blooded at all. Unfortunately for them, you're right.

[Jon. A]

Natures way of pruning lol

[Jorge Venegas]

From what I know, average time to sleep is between 8-10 seconds, brain damage occurs between 12 and 15 seconds, and death around 20 when it comes to a RNC. It's not strange at all my good sir.

Sports Science actually did a piece on chokes (from ESPN). They had BJ Penn performing the choke and the host was out in a few seconds but they determined BJs full strength RNC only cut off 13% of the blood flow to the brain, which is enough to cause you to pass out. So your brain is still getting oxygen, just not enough to keep you conscious. Based on that alone, either this guy had something else going on in his body, the choke was on for a lot longer, or my best guess is that this guy had a trachea choke going on compressing his windpipe which could have stopped his breathing as opposed to strangling his carotids. Cause with 87% of oxygen still going to your brain, you're not going to die from a proper RNC, even if it's held for 20 seconds. The brain begins to die at about 6 minutes of total oxygen deprivation.

Here's the vid (sorry this is my first post so I don't know how to imbed):
http://www.grapplemonkey.com/2010/05...sport-science/

[David Rosado]

That's true Jorge, but there is an MMA fighter (Rafiel Torre) who was convicted of murder by using the RNC. The RNC can be deadly if held on long enough. I'm no medical expert, but if your brain goes to sleep long enough, I'm guessing that the rest of you would likely die as well. Just making an educated guess.

[Jorge Venegas]

That's true Jorge, but there is an MMA fighter (Rafiel Torre) who was convicted of murder by using the RNC. The RNC can be deadly if held on long enough. I'm no medical expert, but if your brain goes to sleep long enough, I'm guessing that the rest of you would likely die as well. Just making an educated guess.

No doubt man. Shit's dangerous. You hold that shit long enough, and who knows how ones body is going to react.

[Kyle Hilfiker]

Good news there Jeremy. MMA is now legal in New York State. Well, ameteur level at least. Its a start!

[David Rosado]

Good news there Jeremy. MMA is now legal in New York State. Well, ameteur level at least. Its a start!

"Technically."