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If you are trying all these and failing, you're gonna need to change the vector in which you're attacking his grip. If you're pulling straight into his ebow strength can win. Crunch in and attack the grip iteslf, instead of pulling till it breaks. All grips are weak at certain angles.
Armcrush bypasses all that bs. But if you're properly attacking his grip armcrush is much easier to get.
I usually just lean my body towards their legs when I have them in spiderweb and pull my deep hook with me in a diagonal direction and push them away from me with my legs. I find it very hard to get and armbar pulling it horizontal. Thats just me though;)
many thanks for all the help
arm crush don't tend to work on him so if the x-break/silvardo combo don't work think imma have to try all off the above untill i get that arm.
can catch him with triangle from s/web but now its become the new target at gym to break the grip and take the arm bar.
i like the thinking of trez and bobby about different angle,as been trying textbook armbar but if lean down towards legs might help,spesh against s-grip
thanks again for everyones inputs
zog teaches the yakimov grip break which is using both arms to grip break. if u have a left deep hook, take your right hand and cup his far elbow, release the deep hook and re-enforce the right hand with the left. pull both arms back and even if he doesnt release the grip you still get the armbar.
is there any tech vid for the yakimov? sounds like a total new approach?
think if the x-break/silvardo combo don't work will have a go at trez idea of hitting it at an angle as been doing textbook 90 degree armbar,but thinking on it putting an angle on s-grip is sure to help!
thanks for all the input guys much appreciated
I have this problem a lot being the only girl in a gym full of guys. If you change the angle of the armbar, they will have significantly less strength. Instead of going straight back, position your body so you angle towards either the head or feet. The slight change makes their arm weaker so the various grip breaks will be more effective. I also x-break often and if it doesn't break the grip I can at least easily transition to the triangle. Hope these ideas help!
Rhonda falls toward the head side for her armbars. One night we were doing it how she does it, kinda sucks getting arm bar'd that wayQuote:
Originally Posted by Amber Kamischke
hmmm very interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy Gates
I use the figure four/kimura to break the grip all the time. Mostly from the back widow so I don't have to transition grips. I also don't clear his head. I just lock his far shoulder and close my 'guard'. You can literally rip his shoulder apart. Different from kimura or americana. If I lose his shoulder and have to clear the head for control I transition to deephook then spiderweb. I test the back Rousey first though.
Douchebag FTW.