Is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxMSs...e_gdata_player
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Is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxMSs...e_gdata_player
Yes. Listen to the commentary. He started from belly up back control with both hooks, switched to a grapevine, then worked the twister. Watch the whole fight.
I've been put in the twsiter from back before, a few times. Grapevine with arm control is all it takes to start that path.
An awesome surprise for people that think you only want to choke them. Aoki has finished a couple people with this technique. That is where I got it from first, then I found this same Bas vid while researching it. I like Aokis details a little bit more, but different options are always good. Not sure about Pro/Cons. Maybe just less movements the transitioning to Twister. I guess depends on what your opponent is doing to defend your back control or rnc
But once you gapevine the leg arent you playing the truck game?
I know that you can lock the truck and go to twister from back but to finish a twister from back for me would mean I have 2 hooks in.
I view it as a seperate position because if I just grapevine your leg I dont get points for back grab so I think of the grapevine as one thing and back as another. So it would be like if I had you in side switched to mount and armbared you and you said it came from side because that's where I started the transition sequence.
I dont know maybe Im wrong... I do understand your point the only difference in our opinion is I think when he switched to grapevine he changed positions and then went to baseball bat control to get the twister.
One grapevine doesn't make a truck. If I have your back with a grapevine, I don't have the truck. I have your back. Forget points. It's about position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan Brick
Both the twister from the back and Bas' crank come from the back. Then they both scoop one leg the same way. Then they both isolate the leg. The only difference is that Bas doesn't grapevine (which he should for better control). So to say one comes from the back and the other doesn't isn't 100% right. They both start the same. In the end it's up to you: finish with the crank? Or go to twister? But they both literally start the same way.
Did you get twistered from the back, or transitioned into the truck then twistered immediately? Semantics. The Chevy is the name of the transition.
I heart neckcranks and jaw crushes. You can't block a choke with your face. Thank god for tapping because these type moves are the scariest real life scenario. If he tucks his chin, I'm gonna put my radius through your teeth and crush your jaw before snappin your neck. Some gory ass shit if you think about it.
I love Bas, but zero % of my game is based around his strategies. Not because they don't work, rather than somebody usually has a better version.
Somebody finally said it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
Dont take it out on me because he tucked his chin..Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
I have a hard time taking grappling strategy from a man who is notorious for whooping guys asses on the feet. Not saying he doesn't know what he is talking about, but Bobby summed it up the best. I would transition to the Truck and try the Twister, it is a higher percentage move, to many escapes from belly up back control.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren