K Control Roll to Back Mount: NEIL MELANSON

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

I also like how he puts himself in the crucifix as he does it.

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Lol I didn't think of that.

I did hit a flower sweep from this position. Worked beautifully.

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Originally Posted by BrentSmith

Lol I didn't think of that.

I did hit a flower sweep from this position. Worked beautifully.

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Smoke a joint and then look at the still pic of the video, if you can't see the crucifix, you're no fan of it ;)

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Originally Posted by Chris Herzog

Smoke a joint and then look at the still pic of the video, if you can't see the crucifix, you're no fan of it ;)

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Sounds like the best plan ever lol

So basically “K-control” is you freezing in a old school “scissor sweep” position? A move so vernable to leg locks and easy passes that it pretty much isn’t good when done super fast. But he’s going to stay there? His right leg gets leg locked #1 or double under passed immediately, if your late, his left leg gets leg locked. If he starts rolling before you moved, he gets bysept crushed in side control. If he makes it up to his knees he gets crusifixed. If you just sat there that whole time… it looks like that’s ok if he does like in the video and doesn’t trade hooks properly because you can flip the truck on him….

That’s all stuff I just saw. Maybe it’s the way he showed it, who know :) Sorry if that was mean.

This reminds me of a popular gi move/sweep which name escapes me right now. The name is really cool if I remember correctly, but it doesn’t work no gi (the sweep I’m thinking of).

Yea, his suggesting it would be good for mma was silly. That's like playing z-guard in mma.

I wasn't gonna say it first, by now that zog broke the seal.. Yeah it's pretty bad, that guy passes up free leg locks, a free double unders pass, a crucifix and a back take to allow him to do that. Also man, you can tell he doesn't even understand the basics of the back control. I know I'm being harsh, but I'm also not inventing wild moves and putting them on videos everywhere, before they are tested.. Just saying.

P.S. Bunnies and rainbows. :)

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Originally Posted by Brian Debes

So basically “K-control” is you freezing in a old school “scissor sweep” position? A move so vernable to leg locks and easy passes that it pretty much isn’t good when done super fast. But he’s going to stay there? His right leg gets leg locked #1 or double under passed immediately, if your late, his left leg gets leg locked. If he starts rolling before you moved, he gets bysept crushed in side control. If he makes it up to his knees he gets crusifixed. If you just sat there that whole time… it looks like that’s ok if he does like in the video and doesn’t trade hooks properly because you can flip the truck on him….

That’s all stuff I just saw. Maybe it’s the way he showed it, who know :) Sorry if that was mean.

This reminds me of a popular gi move/sweep which name escapes me right now. The name is really cool if I remember correctly, but it doesn’t work no gi (the sweep I’m thinking of).

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Star sweep?

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Originally Posted by Scott Ray

Star sweep?

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Yes, fellow student of grand master youtube, the star sweep. ;) That's it, thanks! Just another thing I'll never use I learned from youtube.... Am I in a negative mood lol?

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Originally Posted by Brian Debes

Yes, fellow student of grand master youtube, the star sweep. ;) That's it, thanks! Just another thing I'll never use I learned from youtube.... Am I in a negative mood lol?

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Yes...

Bahahaha fair enough fellas.