choking people out, whats the drama?

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Originally Posted by James Steele

I feel qualified to answer this question being a maths teacher: The distance across the circle is the diameter, or twice the radius. The gif starts off showing you that the circle has a diameter of 1 unit. The circumference of a circle is calculated as pi x diameter, which equals 3.14159 in this case (to 5 decimal places).

I think you have confused the diameter and the radius, which is half of the diameter.

Did you know that Pi has been calculated to over 1 trillion decimal places?

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This.

Did you see that Guy that rambled off pi for like 15 hours or so... did it with short term memory.

On Ari's promotion I did'nt see Keith Owen choking him unconsious. He wraped up the choke Ari taps and its all good. I understand there is symbolism and meaning to ceremonies like this, but choking him till he passes out is too much.

Yeah I seriously doubt theres much benefit depriving your brain from oxygen.

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Originally Posted by Chris Leavelle

On Ari's promotion I did'nt see Keith Owen choking him unconsious. He wraped up the choke Ari taps and its all good. I understand there is symbolism and meaning to ceremonies like this, but choking him till he passes out is too much.

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I think in the video posted - it is stated, u can tap out if you like.

Some people take these type of ceremonies very serious and see it as a sort of "rite of passage" I get it...I think its retarded but I get it. Some people still think the GI makes there nogi better :confused:

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Originally Posted by Chris Leavelle

Some people take these type of ceremonies very serious and see it as a sort of "rite of passage" I get it...I think its retarded but I get it. Some people still think the GI makes there nogi better :confused:

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Gi making nogi better could be purely psychological and a personal truth but not a universal or absolute truth. For some people, its just more grappling and more grappling = better. Who knows :shrugs: I've only been grappling since '07 (besides jujitsu as a kid) and I haven't given the gi an adequate chance to come to that conclusion. I got like 10 gi classes under my belt :-P

For some reason I start day dreaming when I tried it.

The place I train was at one time a Perdro Sauer affiliate under John Friedland and I have seen the choke out happen as well, but it has always been optional. The worst part I always felt was the gauntlet, it usually takes over a week for the newly promoted to heal from the beating. We are no longer affiliated through Sauer but still keep the gauntlet tradition. Not sure exactly why it is done, just that you are going through a rite of passage. I assume it is similar to hazing in college.

Not commenting right or wrong just that it is common in the area. I highly respect RED Schafer and do not feel he would ever do anything to intentionally hurt one of his students.

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Originally Posted by Rob Schuster

The place I train was at one time a Perdro Sauer affiliate under John Friedland and I have seen the choke out happen as well, but it has always been optional. The worst part I always felt was the gauntlet, it usually takes over a week for the newly promoted to heal from the beating. We are no longer affiliated through Sauer but still keep the gauntlet tradition. Not sure exactly why it is done, just that you are going through a rite of passage. I assume it is similar to hazing in college.

Not commenting right or wrong just that it is common in the area. I highly respect RED Schafer and do not feel he would ever do anything to intentionally hurt one of his students.

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Don't I know u?

well every gym has their own way of doing things. at ceasar gracies gym when you get a black belt everyone there lines up and slaps you. Some wrestling coaches suplex their wrestlers right after winning a competition. Getting slapped by Antonio Inoki is considered an honor in Japan. Every gym has initiations, some are more hardcore than others. Some people just get a belt and shake hands. The way I see it is the same way I see any gym. If you don't like it you don't have to train there.

And IMO if you get choked out it's gonna take away a lot of the fear in the choke when rolling or in comp causing you to panic less. I had my cousin and my friends choke me out a couple times for just that reason, and it did help. And I'm still perfectly literate and intelligent. It's not like I'm retarded now.

Everyone to their own I guess.

I'd let Gene Lebell choke me out. But on a mat, he tends to drop people's heads onto the floor.