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08-22-2011, 09:03 PM
Art "ART OF WAR" Belarde

lol
08-22-2011, 10:15 PM
Isaiah Mendoza

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Originally Posted by Conner MACHINE Gibbons

Army does have a combatants program, the local army base's instructor trains at our school. The team comes in and trains with us sometimes before they fly out to other bases to compete. I have worked with there 145 and under guys. You have to make the team. The regular training the soldiers go thru isn't great. Very basic stuff.

I have read a bunch of the books written by Richard Marcinko. He is the guy that formed seal team 6. From what I have seen very little time was spent with hand to hand stuff. They are trained to be experts in any weapons they touch. Edged included. In one of the books he talked about Steven Segal being one of his guys........ and he was way down on the list of tough guys in the unit. He was best with his language skills. I kinda got the feel if you made it to seal teal 6, not alot of time was spent on hand to hand stuff because it was pretty much a given you were a badass !!!! Besides they are to skilled to play around with kids games!!!! lol. They would just double tap you between the eyes or plunge a tanto edged folding blade into your throat..... Great books he has several out, pick them up for some good reading.

ya I've actually heard the gracies helped implement a good chunk of the hand to hand program for the army after the original UFC's aired. From what I've seen the program looks pretty basic though.

As for the seals I've heard there is a lot of weapons training, manuevering drills, room clearing... CQC with weapons, beachwork... But for the life of me I can't find any info on hand to hand combat.
08-23-2011, 04:58 AM
Tony "The Goods" Garcia

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conner MACHINE Gibbons

Army does have a combatants program, the local army base's instructor trains at our school. The team comes in and trains with us sometimes before they fly out to other bases to compete. I have worked with there 145 and under guys. You have to make the team. The regular training the soldiers go thru isn't great. Very basic stuff.

I have read a bunch of the books written by Richard Marcinko. He is the guy that formed seal team 6. From what I have seen very little time was spent with hand to hand stuff. They are trained to be experts in any weapons they touch. Edged included. In one of the books he talked about Steven Segal being one of his guys........ and he was way down on the list of tough guys in the unit. He was best with his language skills. I kinda got the feel if you made it to seal teal 6, not alot of time was spent on hand to hand stuff because it was pretty much a given you were a badass !!!! Besides they are to skilled to play around with kids games!!!! lol. They would just double tap you between the eyes or plunge a tanto edged folding blade into your throat..... Great books he has several out, pick them up for some good reading.

Very true Conner. I had a chance to meet Mr. Marcinko at Fort Bragg in the early 90's. The man scared the living hell out of me! I've read all of his books and guarantee he's the real deal. Marcinko has killed more people than the plague lol.
08-23-2011, 05:34 AM
Tony "The Goods" Garcia

In the beginning, only two seal teams existed. Team One on the west coast and Team Two on the east coast. Somewhere around 1984 a new group in Virginia called themselves Team 6 to confuse Soviet analysts.They were disbanded in 1987 and soon became the Naval Special Warfare Development Group or DevGru (under Richard Marcinko). If you ever get the pleasure of speaking to one of these guys, they simply call themselves the boys from Dam Neck (the training area in VA.). The term "Seal Team 6" will change again soon. It's only used to identify a small few and is part of a regular roation of name changes. There are Teams One, Two, Three, Four, Five, Seven, Eight, Nine, and Ten. After several years with one of these "white" teams that operate under government acknowledgment, a Seal can apply for a "black" team. That team operates independantly and near completely outside of the government. DevGru goes where the U.S. Government has no official presence.
08-23-2011, 10:51 AM
James III

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Originally Posted by Frank R.

It's a mixture of all the martial arts; the most efficient and most effective technique for the situation. Starting from weapons base down to some ground fighting. But really no focal point on any one. Jack of all trades but master of none kind of system.

What the hell you know about anything? You're just a troll who dosen't train and makes up multiple accounts to talk shit to people. Copying and pasting something you google dosen't make you smart. Carefull about this troll people he does background checks for pics and videos for anyone he comes across.
08-23-2011, 10:55 AM
James III

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Originally Posted by Frank R.

I know he played a Navy Seal in a few movies but didn't know he actually was one. That's new.

Well what you don't know could fill a warehouse fool! Great contribution as if people give a shit about some loser trolls opinion. Back under your bridge!!

ok I'm sorry everyone this is the last time I'ii talk shit (truth) to this troll. After stalking me across various threads we're even now. I've humiliated him enough. No more shit talking from me about this anymore.
08-23-2011, 10:57 AM
Frank R.

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Originally Posted by Isaiah Mendoza

ya I've actually heard the gracies helped implement a good chunk of the hand to hand program for the army after the original UFC's aired. From what I've seen the program looks pretty basic though.

As for the seals I've heard there is a lot of weapons training, manuevering drills, room clearing... CQC with weapons, beachwork... But for the life of me I can't find any info on hand to hand combat.

In the MCMAP as well we have the Gracie jiu jitsu arm bars from guard/mount, basic escapes, guillotine, triangle, hip throw and a few of the wrist lock techniques but yeah for the most part it's pretty basic as well.
08-23-2011, 04:07 PM
Jimmy Olsen

First, it is my understanding that there is no official hand to hand training program for SEALs. Because each team trains and functions as a separate group they are free to hire and employ experts to train with as their operational needs dictate. So each team can and does have different systems to draw upon and no one thing is "official". So it is be a mixed bag.

For example, my teacher, Paul Vunak was contracted to teach his own personal version of JKD (Progressive Fighting System's the RAT) as the "official" h2h for around four years with SEAL Team 6 in Virginia Beach (I believe it was from 87-91). He left a core of JKD inspired intructors that he certified behind when he left (Pat Bagley, Pat Tray, and Frank Cucci I believe) to carry on the JKD centered training..

Paul discussing RAT on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7szJl4ZLVPI
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcVN4Xn0Dyw

Frank Cucci old vids on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68pNX7YkbIM

There have been other groups and systems used. SCARS by Jerry Peterson was taught at BUDs and for awhile was kinda "official". It was heavily inspired by San Soo kung fu I believe. It was better than karate I guess, but... yech...

SCARS on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7xpCr7lUWE

SAFTA, (a SCARS knock-off) was taught somewhere along the line,,, I love the mustache in this youtube video and he DID train Jon Hess in UFC 5 :p

SAFTA on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oSzGQtBxo

I know that Duane Dieter has been teaching SEALs his system for a while now. I seem to remember that his system was based off wing chun concepts, but I could be wrong.

Dieter on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEHo4l0ucmY

One guy even told me they did Military style Krav Maga in his team.

As said before, no SEALs normal operational duties regularly require them to fight h2h. It is a confidence builder, warrior mentality training skill and a necessary component of survival for wtshtf. I had a ex-SEAL tell me once that he only ever had to use his h2h skill when he was being covered by a fully armed team.

p.s. Steven Seagal was only a SEAL in the movies... :confused:
08-23-2011, 04:55 PM
Isaiah Mendoza

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Olsen

SAFTA, (a SCARS knock-off) was taught somewhere along the line,,, I love the mustache in this youtube video and he DID train Jon Hess in UFC 5

hahaha and we all know what a technical master jon hess was. Guess it's safe to say the SEALS are a lot better with their guns.
08-23-2011, 05:05 PM
Jonathan Wylie

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Originally Posted by Isaiah Mendoza

hahaha and we all know what a technical master jon hess was. Guess it's safe to say the SEALS are a lot better with their guns.

Ya I didn't remember the guy so I looked him up he beat on some guy that was 5'6" and 240lbs haha, and then he fought one more mma fight and got ko'ed by Vitor Belfort in 12 sec.

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