Triangle from z guard

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

So check it; you get your other leg free by baiting the guy by pretending to sweep and then letting him pass your bottom leg, that's when you switch to the triangle. The arm is definitely in there. Why did your guy tap early? Because it's tight as a mf'er. If you watch the video again, you'll see that Drew didn't even get his ankle behind his knee for a fully locked in triangle and the guy still tapped.

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Its SOOOO tight. As long as I hold my shin I get the tap regardless.

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Originally Posted by brianspinaltap

I tested this out on a guy at the gym today - each time he tapped before I even got to the point of locking my legs together, but he's only a white belt, so hard to say and doesn't prove much, but the arm definitely wasn't in there. It's just my arm and my leg around his neck. I just had the back of my knee over the side of his neck and as soon as I reached up and grabbed my shin he tapped - his face went bright red too, so it was definitely 'on'.

Looking at this pic from the video I don't see the defender's arm inside the triangle either..?

http://imageshack.com/a/img37/2001/47zh.png

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If you're doing it no arm in you're not doing this specific technique correctly. If you watch where Drew is setting it up his uke's right arm ends up in the reverse triangle. Absolutely a choke and a brutal triangle choke at that used at the highest level. Braulio vs Galvao

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Originally Posted by sean applegate

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That's it, you guys are weird. I'm going to gracie barra

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Bahahaha

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Originally Posted by brianspinaltap

I tested this out on a guy at the gym today - each time he tapped before I even got to the point of locking my legs together, but he's only a white belt, so hard to say and doesn't prove much, but the arm definitely wasn't in there. It's just my arm and my leg around his neck. I just had the back of my knee over the side of his neck and as soon as I reached up and grabbed my shin he tapped - his face went bright red too, so it was definitely 'on'.

Looking at this pic from the video I don't see the defender's arm inside the triangle either..?

http://imageshack.com/a/img37/2001/47zh.png

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Even in the pic you just posted the arm is in the Triangle.

I think I know how to settle this. Brian you have to fly Drew out for a personal seminar.

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Originally Posted by Brent Smith

I think I know how to settle this. Brian you have to fly Drew out for a personal seminar.

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When Fabi gets back from class, Ill make a short vid from other angle so we can all be clear that the arm is in.

I don't think it could be any clearer.

This thread is comedy, with some hardcore JJ thrown in...

Ok I get it the arm is in! :)

Jesus guys, I said that like a page ago... :)

The arm is in - but I don't think it is "IN". I don't think the choke is coming from the arm that is "IN" .... is it?

http://imageshack.com/a/img824/1447/7f9c.jpg

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Originally Posted by Chris Ludington

The arm is in - but I don't think it is "IN". I don't think the choke is coming from the arm that is "IN" .... is it?

http://imageshack.com/a/img824/1447/7f9c.jpg

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The choke has the same principals as a standard triangle. The arm in cuts off one side and the other side of the triangle cuts off the other corotid.

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Originally Posted by Brent Smith

The choke has the same principals as a standard triangle. The arm in cuts off one side and the other side of the triangle cuts off the other corotid.

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Should we focus on the shoulder squeeze on the back side?

Or maybe a better way to word it. If my left hand (as in this example) were to slip off my shin after I locked up my legs, the choke would still be there... is this correct?

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Originally Posted by Chris Ludington

The arm is in - but I don't think it is "IN". I don't think the choke is coming from the arm that is "IN" .... is it?

http://imageshack.com/a/img824/1447/7f9c.jpg

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The angle of the video makes it hard to see, but if you watch this one you can get it. Drew is adding an extra hand on the shin to make it extra tight, but it's basically this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFM_AjQ-s9s&sns=em

This is a lot like the triangle I play with when my opponent drives their head too low in side control and I'm able to jam the head.

Thanks for clearing that up. Gold.

Ah man. :-) I've been getting stuck here with some of the bigger guys. Def gonna use this!!

Cade can tap you with nearly no squeeze, but with all angle.. He's also a very badass blackbelt. Lol.