Triangle from z guard

[Drew Ash]

So check it; you get your other leg free by baiting the guy by pretending to sweep and then letting him pass your bottom leg, that's when you switch to the triangle. The arm is definitely in there. Why did your guy tap early? Because it's tight as a mf'er. If you watch the video again, you'll see that Drew didn't even get his ankle behind his knee for a fully locked in triangle and the guy still tapped.

Its SOOOO tight. As long as I hold my shin I get the tap regardless.

[Brent Smith]

I tested this out on a guy at the gym today - each time he tapped before I even got to the point of locking my legs together, but he's only a white belt, so hard to say and doesn't prove much, but the arm definitely wasn't in there. It's just my arm and my leg around his neck. I just had the back of my knee over the side of his neck and as soon as I reached up and grabbed my shin he tapped - his face went bright red too, so it was definitely 'on'.

Looking at this pic from the video I don't see the defender's arm inside the triangle either..?

http://imageshack.com/a/img37/2001/47zh.png

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If you're doing it no arm in you're not doing this specific technique correctly. If you watch where Drew is setting it up his uke's right arm ends up in the reverse triangle. Absolutely a choke and a brutal triangle choke at that used at the highest level. Braulio vs Galvao

[Brent Smith]

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That's it, you guys are weird. I'm going to gracie barra

Bahahaha

[Chris Herzog]

I tested this out on a guy at the gym today - each time he tapped before I even got to the point of locking my legs together, but he's only a white belt, so hard to say and doesn't prove much, but the arm definitely wasn't in there. It's just my arm and my leg around his neck. I just had the back of my knee over the side of his neck and as soon as I reached up and grabbed my shin he tapped - his face went bright red too, so it was definitely 'on'.

Looking at this pic from the video I don't see the defender's arm inside the triangle either..?

http://imageshack.com/a/img37/2001/47zh.png

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Even in the pic you just posted the arm is in the Triangle.

[Brent Smith]

I think I know how to settle this. Brian you have to fly Drew out for a personal seminar.

[Drew Ash]

I think I know how to settle this. Brian you have to fly Drew out for a personal seminar.

When Fabi gets back from class, Ill make a short vid from other angle so we can all be clear that the arm is in.

[Chris Herzog]

I don't think it could be any clearer.

[JHouse]

This thread is comedy, with some hardcore JJ thrown in...

[brianspinaltap]

Ok I get it the arm is in!

Jesus guys, I said that like a page ago...

[Chris Ludington]

The arm is in - but I don't think it is "IN". I don't think the choke is coming from the arm that is "IN" .... is it?