I don't actually attend any school but I have visited a few, just throwing that out there so no one takes others opinion of me and projects that to some legitimate school
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I don't actually attend any school but I have visited a few, just throwing that out there so no one takes others opinion of me and projects that to some legitimate school
If you are really serious about BJJ and have the means to pay tuition fees at a legit BJJ school that's really what you should be doing. Even if you have a couple friends you roll with and you learn off of videos on the net, that can only take you so far. Learning from the Internet is awesome but you have to have good guys to roll against, to learn from, and to try out the techniques you learn from books or the net on. Chances are if you are rolling with other guys that are around your level you aren't going to improve much. The awesome thing about enrolling at a BJJ school, other than the instruction you will recieve, is that there is going be guys there that are so much better than you it will make you feel as though you have no hope at ever becoming good at BJJ; those are the type of environments where you really learn and become proficient at BJJ. Good luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by evanellerbe
I actually don't have any friends that roll,I have definitely rolled with people ( mostly in school visits and people at college that attend legitimate schools ) that should of been better than me , but have not run into the case in which there more knowledgeable or skilled than me , also I am not scared of scrutiny ( or I probably wouldn't be here ) but spiders and werewolves now that stuff is scary ,
More than likely they were full of beans. Most people are. It is humbling and mentally jarring when you are toyed with and handled like a 12 year old girl by a BJJ black belt. The experience cannot be explained but it's both soul crushing and inspiring at the same time. I invite you to search for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by evanellerbe
To quote Eddie in Jiu-Jitsu Unleashed:
"When I first started training jiu-jitsu, everytime I went for an arm bar
from the guard my opponent would press his weight down into me,
making it nearly impossible for me to extend my hips and lock in the submission.
This was a big setback because arm bars are the most common submission
from the guard. I asked Jean Jacques what to do, and he told me that when
grappling with a larger or stronger opponent I shouldn't attempt to lock out
his arm while lying on my back. Instead, I should use the control I had on my
opponent's arm to sweep him. (etc etc etc to spiderweb) The success I had
with this position (Spiderweb) helped me realize just how important it was
not to simply jump into a submission all at once. If I had continued jumping
into the arm bar from the guard and hoping for the best, I never would have
realized that there was another option available."
Thought that was appropriate here, and may be helpful.
This!Quote:
Originally Posted by AJ Camacho
Looks like those submissions are just made up tp get attention as a new poster.... go attend a bjj school then post the video of the submission, not some youtube clip of a highschooler attempting to explain something that can only be understood in realtime sparring
Ok thank u jitsu gods , I have never rolled with anyone of worth and Yall know this without a doubt so u must be,omnipotent I came here expecting something different than regurgitated words of wisdom from every high Lvl bjj guy I've made eat those words. I'm gonna do Yall a favor and never post here in the realm of superiority again , but u know were I am (its,in my profile) and I have never passed up a challenge , but I have definitely had people back out of them thanx ,good morning, and if I don't see ya ,,good afternoon ,good evening ,and good night (truman show ) and if ur getting handled like a lil girl by someone who isn't twice ur size u might wanna get a book ,pamphlet or seminar on jits then check ur hand mirror to see if ur sideways smile is still there
oh how sad :( i guess the only thing i can add is.. good riddance
What high level BJJ guys have you crushed???? I would love to hear the backstory of you dominating some "high level" legit jiu jitsu player with the throwup armbar. This has got to be a troll.
*Facepalms* all around
LOOOOOOOOOOOLQuote:
Originally Posted by evanellerbe
Great thread. Great advice. And great reaction from this guy. Dude is salty. :D
I want to think this is a genius troll but the fact that the video of you hitting a heavy bag as hard as you can was uploaded a while ago makes me think this is, sadly, legitimate. But I prefer to believe it's an excellent troll and the heavy bag video was simply an incredible use of foreshadowing. Good luck with your throw up armbahs and tortue racks I'm sure we will see you at the mundials catching Renato in whatever your next revolutionary technique will be...PS can we help name it??? PSS kisses!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by evanellerbe
His heavy bag video has over 6,000 views and a bunch of very amusing comments. :)
Sorry dude, I didn't mean to upset you. I just don't believe you, that's all. You don't just climb out of your house with home training and no wrestling background and just start tapping out people with 2+ years of experience. It just doesn't happen that way. In the grappling world though, there are tons of bullshitters out there and people who think that their level of grappling is top notch, it's not hard to imagine that you may have bumped into some of those people. Hell, once I moved out here I met a guy who said he was a ninja and that he's beaten people from all the nearby schools (of which there were none at the time).Quote:
Originally Posted by evanellerbe
Even my gym is isolated in a random little midwest bubble and from week to week I can feel like a moron or a regional grappling god. It only took me a handful of visits to some seriously competitive schools to realize where I sat on the food chain of jiujitsu and it was both a humbling and inspiring experience.
So this leads me to presume 1 of 2 likely options. 1) The people you rolled with were of a much lower skill level than you believed and you were able to hold your own against them boosting your ego. or 2) You're one of those kinds of people who slightly bends or exaggerates their experiences and stories to boost credibility. Both of these types have visited this forum many times again and again.
The major point though, is that none of that matters and none of it impresses anybody here. It's pretty simple really, the truth is in the footage and there's no need to toot your own horn if you got footage. Just train hard, roll often, tap even more often, and enjoy the grind through jiujitsu training.
What say you Niburu warriors? Let's reverse troll the next "new submission" guy. We will praise his techniques as revolutionary, promote him to brown belt over the net, suggest he write a book or open his own academy, make him think he is the next BJ Penn, THEN pull the plug on his illusion? Should make for an interesting "social experiment" to say the least! :)
I like ur philosophy. Keep exploring.Quote:
Originally Posted by evanellerbe
Wtf.... were u doing to that giant ball of duct tape?
Oh yeah... that sub or sweep would not be high percentage. Who grapples that loose?
W/o wrist control, the guys gonna cartwheel or str8 up throw that gimpy left foot out his way and pass.
U need to alter the technique, I'm only answering u serious cause I think ur being serious.
I would totally break your leg if u put your foot that close to my armpit, or pass your guard.
If this is a troll post, I think its the best technique I have ever seen in my life. I can't wait to try it.
Either way, I applaud your work.
Im down. Nutt'n else to do. Gotta see how delussional he is first, but I will exhault the next.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logan Cook
lol @ thinking this was going to end differently than it did.
come to think of it, it probably is a troll... i mean what kind of sane person would think it would be cool to name a move "throw up" armbar
http://www.ratemyvomit.com/images/ul...omit-1774.jpeg + http://www.armystudyguide.com/images2/20060704a-420.jpg = ???
it works when you where a gi
This would be pretty funny but not everybody is going to see this and somebody will botch the plan. Im down though. I'm kind of exited about the next one of these posts now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logan Cook
he's not trolling he's being dead serious
Sponge was on 10th Planet Dallas Fort Worth forum? Or do you mean the first 10thplanetjj.com forum? Because I think DValdez, Chris Herzog, MarGar, myself, you and a few others were rockin the leader board before SponginBob was making posts. I may be wrong though. That was like 2 years ago. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie
The 10thplanetjj.com forum. I didn't even know there was a 10th planet Dallas Fort Worth forum I came from 10thplanetwatch.com. There is a lot of guys who have been around from the beginning Jon Helton, Don, AJQuote:
Originally Posted by Jon Watkins
How flaired out your knees are theres really going to be a lot of room to move around. Anybody with a knowledge of how to do an armbar will more than likely slipped right out of this one. If you can use this to get the sweep that would be cool, which I dont see likely. I dont see a high percentage for the sub either.
I was on 10th Planet Watch with Alder, which directed me to the forum on the grand opening on day 1. Cant believe in this whole thread you wanna have a pissing contest Jon and insinuate im lying. lame..
There is just to many holes for this move to be effective. I think it is really possible on someone with no base or skill what so ever.
The hand wraps while punching a bag is also essential. It compresses and protects all the little small bones in your hand and wrist so you don't brake your sh!t. I have never been to any gym... Boxing, MT, Kickboxing or what ever and they say don't worry about those hand wraps.... They are optional. Please sign this weaver!
Don't mind me I just had surgery and am out of the game for 8 weeks So I am just pissed off. Good luck and take care of yourself....
Yeah dude, my boy told me that Floyd Mayweather used to hit the heavy bag without wraps when he was a kid and that's why now he breaks his hands so easily in fights these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Art "ART OF WAR" Belarde
Really? I always thought he broke his hands so often because they were always so fatigued from pulling new excuses for why he won't fight Manny out of his vagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
What the fuck is this? You can just pull your arm out LOL you have no what so ever control over your opponent
You are wrong. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Watkins
Thanx Jon
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by AJ Camacho
If you have not visited your local JJ gym, rolled with...I don't know...at least
a blue belt practitioner, then you really don't know where you stand in Jiu-Jitsu.
Outside of being insulting to you or the video, that is just the truth.
Anyone you roll with who has not trained doesn't really count, obviously
because they have not trained real technique. As stated before, if you
truly believe that your moves are effective, get on the mats with a REAL
Jiu-Jitsu competitor and prove it. If you do that, no one will doubt you.
Your first day in a real school will be quite humbling, believe it or not.
That made no sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logan Cook
i disagree, perhaps no spelt or punctuated correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Rosado
but i imagine fisting yourself like that could be quite taxing on the fingers....
oh and back on topic, evanellerbe. if your opponent has perfect posture and base nothing is going to work. try transitioning to butterfly guard in these situations. I'm sure you can find some video's online with some basic butterfly guard sweeps, or better yet ask your teacher/ training partners to help you out.
+1.I totally agree. I trained in a garage with friends for about 2yrs. We studied from DVDs, youtube, submissions101, and a couple seminars. When I took my shit to a legit school, where I train now, I was mauled. It's a huge difference. Been there for a few months now, and am even tapping some of the blue belts on occasion. Real training goes a long way, bro. This guy can't be more right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logan Cook
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
What pissing contest? You were number one on the leader board before it shut down. And who said you were lying? I was just curious. History interests me in my old age. :D