A new Necktie (revisited)

nice....id say stick with Indiana Neck Tie...

Indiana Necktie sounds good to me :) I'll be playing around with this tomorrow!

Definitely adding this to my choke series, the one from the back is especially fantastic.

I have been toying with this for a while, but a slight adjustment on hand positioning from that video has locked it down for me. I am now hitting this move all the time. A lot of the neckties seem tough to hit on aware opponents, but because of the arm positioning, it's easier to set this one up, and you also don't have to commit as much as you do to, say, the japanese or peruvian neckties. If you lose the choke, you still have the seatbelt. I think this will become THE necktie eventually - it's brilliant, efficient, and really effective.

Also, some names I was toying with before I saw the video were based on the complex mess of tangled arms and legs that you make with your grips. I was on the fence between two: the "Neck Knot", and leaning towards the "Gordian Necktie".

Indiana Neck Tie or the American Neck Tie

TTT - anyone having luck with this move, now that you have had a chance to play with it? Any variations?

I know most of you guys are all no gi but does the gi bring any limitations to this move?

sick!!!

After I showed it to the gym. Everyone is real careful about letting a deep overunder get established. Its harder to catch than I thought when people are hip. Im still lookin for it though. Are y'all still catchin it alot in Indiana?

@T.Benjamin - The gi makes slipping it in slightly tougher, just in terms of getting the choking arm set, but it's essentially the same move either way. I have been hitting it in gi.

@Bobby - I am still catching it, even when people have seen it. The beauty is that you want your arms there anyway. Some people have responded by diving their far should to the mat and trying to turn into me, but good pressure and use of the seatbelt lets me either stop them or transition to side control. One thing I noticed is that the move is a lot easier to hit if you slot your near-side knee under his near armpit. It isolates the upper body, gives more room and angle to get the leg over their head, and sets up a nice crucifix transition if you miss the sub.