Some dude claiming I am his manager, hilarious

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Originally Posted by RaiderFunk

I think you're missing my overall point. If they are an affiliate with traceable lineage I can make my own choices. However, if someone like redcloud lies about his lineage...I mean, dude is instructing people, and we have no idea what belt rank he is. With Brandon and John I can go up to them and they would say "hey big dude, I'm a Eddie Bravo blue belt". And I'm straight. If Eddie backs the schol I am cool. However, if some guy were a blue belt and just opened up a BJJ academy I would have to monitor the class.

I really was just making the point that a purple or black belt usually allows an expectation of the ability to teach. Not crapping on blue belts running schools. Sorry for seeming like a dick

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Na, dude I didn't take it that way at all man. We're straight. just a mis-understanding/ healthy debate.. Peace bro.

Redcloud, you are a fucking ass hole. I just wanted to say that in case it hasn't been said enough. Josh Smith is my boyfriend and he very rarely gives people the benefit of the doubt, as in NEVER. You fucking jerk. I wish I had better things to say to you but I am pissed and my vocabulary goes out the door when I am. Apparently you have had plenty of practice manipulating people into believing your bullshit with all the talk about how you want to learn and you are just a victim of misunderstanding. You thought you could get away with that shit, but not with this family. You bit off more than you could chew when you attempted to manipulate the 10th planet community. There were even a few guys who tried to encourage you and you still turned out to be the biggest piece of shit I have seen enter this forum yet.

FUCK YOU!!!

Josh, I'm sorry baby! You stuck you neck out for this guy and got it cut off. Don't worry. You are still madly respected here and I love you! You are an amazing teacher and friend. :D (sorry for getting a little sentimental guys.)

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Originally Posted by RaiderFunk

only those that lie about affiliations to Eddie!! I know I get butt hurt about the whole thing because there are a ton of frauds out there...guess I spend too much time on bullshido

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Yeah we caught redcloud for sure, something is up with that dude. But I see people are getting into arguments on here cause some people have different beliefs regarding the weed. Some people forget that 10th planet preaches open-mindedness and that also means you have to respect peoples decisions and their beliefs.

I really hope thats a joke Colin. I mean who hear can really say 100% their ancestry? Also, as someone who has been burned by one of these frauds, fuck this dude so hard.

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Originally Posted by Colin Bohbrink

guys it sounds like we need to organize a 10th p dojo storm!!!

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Why don't u storm for us! :D

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Originally Posted by redcloud.anquoe

And, I NEVER ONCE talked smack about Piet's family or him. I do now just because it's happening to me, again. I still show your gym no respect because of you arrogance that the stupid Marines taught you. You still don't know me & never once took the time...Since when does being a BJJ Black Belt seem important anyway? I've seen tons of fighters with little or no training beat the crap out of Brazilian Jiu jitsu Black Belts...

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It is important when you have spent legit years under a master to achieve the belt. It is bragging rights so to speak or a ribbon or a medal to show for all the hard work a person puts on and off the mat. And yes, I have seen BJJ BB take a beating in MMA. But that is different... IT IS MMA. And if it wasn't that damn important why are you claiming to be a BB when you are not. Where is a picture of you and your promotion from a legendary BJJ master?

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Originally Posted by Colin Bohbrink

true!!! but one must also respect the law. so unless you live in amsterdam or have a license for medicinal marijuana, you are not only killing brain cells by smoking pot you are also disrespecting our founding fathers.

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you outted yourself as not being serious.....George Washington was down with the ganja!!

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Originally Posted by Colin Bohbrink

true!!! but one must also respect the law. so unless you live in amsterdam or have a license for medicinal marijuana, you are not only killing brain cells by smoking pot you are also disrespecting our founding fathers.

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I'm not an advocate for marijuana use, I've seen it bring a lot of bad shit into peoples lives and it's not worth it. It is something that should be left for mature people only, not kids. This isn't really the thread for this topic so I'd perfer if this discussion really stayed on topic. But I also don't understand what the dudes heritage means in all this?

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Originally Posted by RaiderFunk

you outted yourself as not being serious.....George Washington was down with the ganja!!

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learn your history fren.... george was not a founding father. so my original point remains.

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Originally Posted by redcloud.anquoe

Piet Wilhelm isn't a 10th Planet Black belt and I don't see anyone jumpin his ass...or posting his other 2 losses...You guys must have a double-standard.

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When I signed up on the forum it asked what my BJJ rank was not my 10th planet BJJ rank was. I am NOT a 10th Planet BB. I have much respect for Eddie and would never claim I am a black belt under him. I am a BB under Renato Tavares from ATT. I am 1 of ten of his BB.

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Originally Posted by Colin Bohbrink

learn your history fren.... george was not a founding father. so my original point remains.

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your splitting hairs...you do realize that right? are you serious or not?

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Originally Posted by JeffRace727

. . But I also don't understand what the dudes heritage means in all this?

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i already explained this.... see post #210 above.

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Originally Posted by RedClown

This Piet guy sounds like a real bully and he's picking on a racially inferior Red Cloud......deplorable actions, sir!

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oh shit...now we are totally derailing...I'm sure for comedies sake..but let's not let this thing de-evolve into the type of crap that destroys board communities. Redcloud is gone and outted. There really is no need to get racial...even in playing. I think it's time to remind people that kids read these boards as well.

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Originally Posted by RaiderFunk

oh shit...now we are totally derailing...I'm sure for comedies sake..but let's not let this thing de-evolve into the type of crap that destroys board communities. Redcloud is gone and outted. There really is no need to get racial...even in playing. I think it's time to remind people that kids read these boards as well.

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+1 to this.

Respectfully James, it is just simple biology and genetics. Its proven science!

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Originally Posted by JeffRace727

+1 to this.

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Originally Posted by redcloud.anquoe

What could you do about it besides run your mouth like you've been doing this whole time? Brazilian Jiu jitsu is supposed to be for everybody. If I'm so bad at Brazilian Jiu jitsu why do my students still win?

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I spoke to your former student who also happens to be your recruiter for the Army. He told me he was tapping you with 2 weeks of training. And you promoted him to a BJJ Purple belt. He told me he shit canned you from your own school when you could not produce credentials for your lineage. Then I had a student of yours come to my school recently that said he trained with your for a long time. He had his gi pants on backwards and couldn't tie a belt.

And this is where I have a problem with you saying you are a BJJ BB. You are a damn fraud. People like you hurt the system and take advantage of people that do not know. I have had a few of your guys come to my school claiming they are blue belts and I told them they are white belts because you are not legit. They end up getting schooled and having a false sense of security. Most of them are NOW legit blue belts that would own your ass in a bout.

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Originally Posted by Josh Smith

This is the email I got from him (Redcloud) today:

"Josh,
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I appreciate your help in trying to clear my name.* Unfortunately,* I can no longer continue with 10th Planet Jiu jitsu after being advised by my ROTC Cadre that it could be frowned upon having a known marijauna advocate as a Martial Arts instructor.* Piet & his goons got on the forum & are talking mad shit about my name as usual.* I wish you the best & give you mad respect...
If you would kindly notify the 10th Planet website to delete my account, that would be appreciated.
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See you down range,"


This speaks volumes to me! I tried to be positive and giving him the benefit of a doubt but it seems like I was wrong. Sorry guys! I need to learn that if it walks like a douchebag, talks like a douchebag and most people agree that it's a douchebag, then it must be so! That is by far the lamest excuse I have ever heard! There's a little thing called the first amendment of the united states constitution and it gives you the right to express your opinion freely. I'm done with this shit!
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Yeah, THAT is quite douchy.

However, I know a few people that would be pissed at me for associating with a 'marijuana punk rocker'. :)

The difference for me is I don't give a sheeet.... :) (Cause I grew on weed, and am a weed head too!) :D

But, you can't fault someone for caring what someone thinks. In a different way, we all care about what someone in particular thinks. And some people are really controlled by another person or group.

That being said, Cloud does not help his case at all with that douchy move of putting that in the e mail. It only bolsters and gives support to the accusations that he's a bad guy...

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Originally Posted by Colin Bohbrink

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Originally Posted by Piet Wilhelm

I spoke to your former student who also happens to be your recruiter for the Army. He told me he was tapping you with 2 weeks of training. And you promoted him to a BJJ Purple belt. He told me he shit canned you from your own school when you could not produce credentials for your lineage. Then I had a student of yours come to my school recently that said he trained with your for a long time. He had his gi pants on backwards and couldn't tie a belt.

And this is where I have a problem with you saying you are a BJJ BB. You are a damn fraud. People like you hurt the system and take advantage of people that do not know. I have had a few of your guys come to my school claiming they are blue belts and I told them they are white belts because you are not legit. They end up getting schooled and having a false sense of security. Most of them are NOW legit blue belts that would own your ass in a bout.

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and I appreciate you for this. This type of fraud is rampant. Everyone that has trained under him was a victim of fraud and wasted money. Not to mention..this is BJJ....bad training can result in serious injury. We're talking about chokes and joint manipulations....

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Originally Posted by Colin Bohbrink

ian, you obviously don't smoke pot..

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Hahahahaha! :D

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Originally Posted by redcloud.anquoe

Once again, the only reason "Triton" is being mentioned on this forum is because my name was brought up... Let's see if you can be man enough to leave me the F**K alone!! If I'm so unimportant, If I'm not a threat...then walk away!!

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You are important in the sense that it is my job to spread martial arts and maintain its integrity. When there are people like you and Nate Orand claiming to have a BJJ rank when you don't, it is the responsibility of others and myself to make sure people like you do not depreciate such a beautiful worked hard for sport and art.

hey Colin, you wouldn't happen to be the same colin that ran Legacy MMA or whatever in rogers are you?

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Originally Posted by RedClown

Respectfully James, it is just simple biology and genetics. Its proven science!

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ok...so let's move on then...this is off topic

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Originally Posted by Colin Bohbrink

and we all know that smoking pot kills brain cells, right? so imagine how much faster you guys could all get to black belt if you weren't sitting around giving yourselves brain damage all the time

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHtdaSp4FkU

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Originally Posted by Colin Bohbrink

true!!! but one must also respect the law. so unless you live in amsterdam or have a license for medicinal marijuana, you are not only killing brain cells by smoking pot you are also disrespecting our founding fathers.

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The founding fathers were ganja cultivators..

Where are these facts, fact man?

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Originally Posted by Ian "ifreez" Freemantle

How do we know you're not simply someone with an axe to grind?



I am confused here. He did not fight on the card, but then he tapped from strikes. On which card did he tap? If I am mistaken, I apologize.

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He was saying the card was staked with Triton people. That he lost because Triton people were running the show. It is on sherdog, just look up the names and it will say TKO or ref stoppage.

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Originally Posted by Colin Bohbrink

ian, i think your avatar is very fitting because you are obviously a bad egg. this is a family! if you don't want to support your 10th planet community and be a real part of the family then why don't you just gtfo?

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You mean by me pointing out that the loudest guy calling for the storm only wants others to do it just so he/she can watch, while being nowhere in sight when the storm goes down?

^^^hilarious statement coming from a guy who lives in canada.

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Originally Posted by RedClown

This Piet guy sounds like a real bully and he's picking on a racially inferior Red Cloud......deplorable actions, sir!

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Shut up limp ;-) Yes, I know I am a dick too.

LMAO, Canadians can't fight!

If this is the same Colin that i'm thinking it is, he's a fucking douche bag too. Not as much as Red Cloud, but not that far from it.

Whoa, Colin is good people. There is no need to get personal like that.

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Originally Posted by RedClown

LMAO, Canadians can't fight!

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tell that one to GSP.

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Originally Posted by JeffRace727

tell that one to GSP.

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Whats a GSP?

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Originally Posted by RedClown

LMAO, Canadians can't fight!

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All of Canada's talent is concentrated into GSP.

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Originally Posted by RaiderFunk

and I appreciate you for this. This type of fraud is rampant. Everyone that has trained under him was a victim of fraud and wasted money. Not to mention..this is BJJ....bad training can result in serious injury. We're talking about chokes and joint manipulations....

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Dude, you need to chill. How do you know piet is not just adding on shit to embellish his story. When there is grudge happening, don't always be so trigger happy to believe what one enemy says about his foe. It's too easy for one bad guy by embellishing a story to make someone else crush his/her enemy.

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Originally Posted by Robert Kipness

If this is the same Colin that i'm thinking it is, he's a fucking douche bag too. Not as much as Red Cloud, but not that far from it.

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man I couldn't tell until you pointed it....actually he is doing a fine job of outing himself by himself.

Actually redclown, if it is the colin i'm thinking of he is a douche bag. I'm not gonna air out the shit he did on here, but there's a reason he left Rogers.