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Very interesting.
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Originally Posted by jeron
I have seen a similar variation. 2 things to consider if you like your knees to work properly.
1) NEVER Capoeira from a lockdown (this is not only my statement but Eddie's as well). It will work from traditional 1/2, which is where I've seen it before.
2) He also has the counter calf crush on either of your legs, or both at the same time. Probably not the best of trade offs.
Most metal paragraph ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray
I recently saw a video on how to stop the crippler. Andy Alexander watch out next time we roll!
that guys not mental, he rolled with Matt Betzold.. Matt was gonna heel hook him probably no matter what tho. He's elite. He and I are good friends.
Except it wasn't Matt Betzold... lol
But thanks for the vote of confidence!
Plus Kyle said "metal" not "mental"
Also been working the 4/11 position from the pistachio. Thanks Sean Applegate.
What's the crippler? I don't play dat
You don't know the crippler? You better update your warm ups son!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Alexander
So much for GP being linked up to the warm ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
Zog one comment and one question.
1) it's a trip seeing that black belt next to your name. Congrats again. I can't think of anyone that deserves it more.
2). Brandon showed a calf slicer from an old school cross body heel hook position (think being in leg drag then sitting back for that heel hook. I would like to know your opinion on the position in general. It doesn't seem to have as much control as a leg lace but there still seems to be some options without having your feet in danger like you would in 5050.
Thanks brotha, the video you guys did with Bmac was tear jerking.
Can you post a quick video of what you are talking about?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmvuvmOc3L0&sns=em
Haha I figured that was clear as mud. Surprised I found a video so quick.
It was Brandon's idea but we were all for it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
Love the inverted heel hooks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CkUExk3pSw
Well this is just perfect. Jizzed in my pants!
not too sure but looked like buddy had a heel hook on his right side, not sure if I seen a tap.
not raining on a parade but buddy looked like he had a heel hook, and didn't see him tap. but if he did tap he was not at your level.
Not sure what you're referencing Dwight
Oh yeah, that's, the outside clamp, same one used for the hail mary straight ankle lock warm up. I use it a lot. I use and teach a variety of other positions than the common ones, those are just the primary ones for they system I use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent Smith
The transitions at 5:29, can also lead you to the outside clamp depending on which direction I turn to my side to attack. In the video I turn to attack inside, low side attack (I facing inside, towards his hips. I then attack his leg on the low side ((closest to the ground)). However is he pushes his leg towards the outside I can go to the outside clamp, attacking the ankle on the high side (my right hip) as his foot is on my him furthest from the floor. The location on the high side or low side of your hips is important as it changes up submission options, and transitions from those options.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent Smith
Do you have any videos going over details on the outside clamp (I'm sure you do)? I'm getting there pretty consistently trying to figure it out. Also from the leg drag I've been sitting back to the outside clamp to bait the kick over so I can hit the calf slicer but guys know what I'm doing now. So instead they're crossing their feet and hand fighting to stop the cross body heel hook. Is there a good way to battle through those road blocks or should I be getting the heel locked up before I hit the mat?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Herzog
EDIT: I appreciate you taking the time to answer my little questions. I still have a long way to understanding the lower body attacks but I'm trying.
I don't really have a video describing the outside clap (just the outside wedge after the cleave sweeps in my reaper videos).
When you enter to the outside clamp, still hug the knee (unless the set up already has the leg wrapped, like in the video I linked), don't attack the sub until after you establish good control.
At about the 4 min mark I transition to the outside clamp. The option with the RNC grip works great when they are handfighting and pulling your heel hooking arm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVJ_gPBMei4
Beautiful. I have a lot to study now.
Question about the Armenian Handshake. Is the knee knot et best place to get that move? I see there's the Armenian Twist and obviously the heel hook if the hand shake doesn't work. Any other slick transitions?
EDIT: I know you answered my question via Facebook. Just wanted to ask here too so other people that may have the same questions can get them answered.
Dean Lister's KATCH DVD is a good one. A lot of good details on there. Especially what he calls "open circuit" (feet not crossed) and "closed circuit" (feet crossed).
I was wondering if Zog or Scott, or anyone for that matter, wouldn't mind giving an opinion on the leg control used in this video. Is this a viable option to use?
http://youtu.be/F8NhBZkpu60?list=UUdCQkR5h6kri1c6Avx8xqKg
He violates a number of principles that I teach.
1)Positions of control focus on controlling or isolating the hips. Some positions just control or isolate one hip, others control or isolate both, he does neither. He is also leaving a huge amount of space with his "position", which isn't helping his control.
2)He uses the flat part of the forum when attempting the foot lock vs. using the sharp cutting edge of the radius bone, which is far superior. It also limits the amount of finishing options.
3)You should never spin out of a straight ankle lock from any position, heel hooks yes, straight ankle locks no, when you spin out of a straight ankle lock, very bad things can happen. Basing a concept on a predicted response of an escape you should never do, leaves giant holes in his "theory".
My opinion, your time is way better spent on other material.
He's giving his opponent an inside heel hookQuote:
Originally Posted by tobyshell
Thanks Zog, I appreciate the detailed response.
I don't get his reasoning on using the position. If someone is ankle locking me I'm not going to grab ahold of his foot and stop him from disengaging.
I'd play footsies with that guy any day :)
He had a number of contradictions to sound leg lock strategies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brent Smith
Zog, regarding the "you should never spin out of a straight ankle leg from any position.." does this hold true for the outside straight ankle lock where the attacker is finishing by twisting the top half of his body to the floor? Is there any point trying to go with the direction of the twist or is it pretty much game over at that point and very risky to spin?
i would counter heel hook the shit out himQuote:
Originally Posted by tobyshell
"Any position".Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterm
Ok. Got it thanks.
Honey hole
Have you seen Eddie Bravo Radio this week with Dean Lister? 10 minutes in and Eddie is as excited as a kid hitting level 85 in World of Warcraft! Look at Eddies eyes and body language... He knows that he knows...a whole 'another level of game is coming in on a comet from 60,000 light years away. Mastering the Saddle. Fired up!