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was rolling earlier in training, and the guy didnt know a thing about mma so he just stayed in side control or half guard whenever i got the lockdown, he was so muscular and strong and had all his weight on my arms so i couldnt do anything. we stayed like that the whole time pretty much. any suggestions guys???
sweeps or the whip up
watch MTS 6 dipset to half and half @ 3:35
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Let me also add when i rolled with the 10P hartford guys, one of the things John said was what attracted him to the 10P system was the half guard and how effective the halfguard is at stifling and defeating opponents with superior size and strength. being a little guy myself at 5'5 155lbs i regularly roll with people much stronger and bigger then myself and often find myself attacking out of the half guard/lockdown.
yeah i wanted to whip up but i couldnt get any hands on his hips cos he had them pinned with his hands and used all his weight to hold them down. im 5'9 190lbs but this guy was so strong, all i could do was keep the lockdown as tight as i could so he didnt escape :/
well 1st keep that lockdown moving and work on your wing chun/ hand pummeling. learn a guard recovery move and prison guard to broaden your options for when you can't get your doubles.
First off, how could he stay in side control if you had the lockdown on him? As for the question, if I can't sweep someone from halfo guard and they are just stalling there, I usually slip in a butterfly hook and then go to butterfly guard. From there, you can try to sweep, or lift him up and pull full guard, and start working the rubber guard from there.
like rob said. stomp to butterfly. create a scramble at the very least. never leave your hips (and back) flat on the mat.
lol you dont understand, when i had the lockdown, i couldnt move at all cos my arms where pinned and he kept struggling against my lockdown, keeping my body stretched out. then whenever i lost the lockdown he layed in side control and kept moving his legs towards my head whenever i went for them, his grip around my torso was so tight i couldnt move my arms down at all. i kept getting the lockdown back every now and then, but it was just the same thing over and over. i wasnt happy, had planned on working my rubber guard today.
Get into some basic aikido. Small circles and learn how to break grips. I can't imagine anyone no matter how strong they are able to hold my arms to the mat while I have a solid lockdown in.
seriously he was a beast, hes on leave from afghanistan and wanted to check out mma. no matter how hard i tried i couldnt lift my arms or moves them at all. everyone was watching too lol
i train with heavier guys alot and i found the other day that when i have lockdown on people that pin my arms with their weight, i can transition to the dogfight by slowly butt scooting to the side 1 inch at a time until i have room to get to my knees instead of trying to whip them upwards
Again... Work the god father with your legs. If he doesn't shift his weight enough to move one of his arms he's either gonna get swept or lose a knee joint. I get big guys trying to lay on me all the time this gets me out of a stall everytime. It might just be back to full guard but atleast it's something.
really should try training with someone thats your size as a whitebelt atleast if you are giving it your all. makes getting techniques in alot easier, and then they work alot better when you do battle someone alot bigger. but if he has all his weight on one side off you, let the lockdown go and roll him over, if he was just keeping your arms pinned with his hand and pure power its worse. but betting to your side shouldnt be impossible. and then its easier getting a butterfly
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the lockdown is also what is pinning you down if you ain't whipping up and getting to your side. all you're doing is stalling out and your opponent will wear you down. use your legs to work to butterfly. hip out. if your arms are pinned, what is he doing? hugging you? lockdown isn't the answer to every situation. in fact, if you use it wrong, you're just locking yourself in a shitty position on bottom.
thanks mate, that sounds useful, ill give it a go next time a have some king kong guy on me :)
and Erwann the lockdown was the only thing i could do to stop him getting side control, when he had the side he just locked his arms around my neck and shoulders too tight for me to move, whenever i would try circle and catch his legs he would just go the other way, then i would catch him and the only way to stop him getting back to the side was to hold him in lockdown. he was stalling cos he didnt know what to do from any positions.