Loving all of the new Lockdown/Electric Chair defense videos

LOL, Every forum I looked at today has a thread with videos on how they would have defended the electric chair or escaped Eddie's lockdown. Old videos from Ari and Eric Paulson with a few new videos (only one of which was decent). I don't know why they don't just come to the source... MTS $5 a month Eddie will show you the best ways. * SMH *

Look out for the super dangerous Indian Death Lock coming your way! Seems to be the most popular "counter to the lockdown" video right now.

These guys have no idea how robust the 10th Planet 1/4 and 1/2 guard game is.

I have noticed the same

I wish them all the best of luck. Cuz its comin.

I 100% feel that the best lockdown breakers, play lockdown. Same with rg.

I really like and use Eric Paulson's kneebar counter to the lockdown (after unhooking the foot). Of course we have a million counters in our system as well because we are always being locked down during training, but that is certainly one that didn't exist and it is unlikely Eddie would've come up with it. He'll be the first to tell you that leg locks aren't his forte. What is beautiful about Eddie's philosophy and the system it has created is the very fact that we are willing to assimilate a variety of techniques from every style we can find. So, it is awesome that other schools are now focusing on countering the lockdown and electric chair; it will only make all of us better.

Honestly, we've all been saying it for a while. Eventually people would start to pick up on 10th planet moves. Guys still doubt the sub, but they believe in the sweep. So their defense will be getting better. And that's great. That will only make us better.

Love it or hate it, I'm just glad they're talking about it. :cool:

WE need 10th planet Indiana electric chair rashguard NOW!!!!

I just watched a video of the "Indian Death Lock" and I think it's ridiculous. Any lockdown player with quite a bit of reps will immediately kick out and hip to the side, causing them to fall back into our clinch, and possibly right into the E.C.. I think the best lockdown destroyers are things that we already practice a lot. Y'allready know: JNT (if PDU ain't perfect), T.P., N.H.P., DM.P., B.C.

Unrelated but my advanced rubber guard book came today, so glad to see some nice set ups using deep half guard in the half guard section. Cool things with 10P is that they are always evolving!!

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Originally Posted by Ross Davidson

I just watched a video of the "Indian Death Lock" and I think it's ridiculous. Any lockdown player with quite a bit of reps will immediately kick out and hip to the side, causing them to fall back into our clinch, and possibly right into the E.C.. I think the best lockdown destroyers are things that we already practice a lot. Y'allready know: JNT (if PDU ain't perfect), T.P., N.H.P., DM.P., B.C.

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Video or it didn't happen.

some of the videos are ok, some are not. there will be a new respect for it. new defenses will start popping up. isn't that why we are all with 10th planet though? for the evolution of the art?

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Originally Posted by sean applegate

some of the videos are ok, some are not. there will be a new respect for it. new defenses will start popping up. isn't that why we are all with 10th planet though? for the evolution of the art?

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Exactly Sean, just cracks me up when guys post 5 year old videos that would have "shut down" Eddie's half guard. They don't understand the evolution. I think they assume all lockdowns are equal and/or they haven't felt a real lockdown. In most of the videos the guy on bottom just lays flat on his back without using his lockdown to control them and more often then not they aren't even doing the lockdown correctly.

Triple H makes it work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz2K-qUdhKk

I remember during a seminar at 10th Planet Burbank, Jeff Glover demonstrated that very same 'Indian Death Lock', explaining why he wasn't too fond of the lockdown. I'm pretty sure he's a believer by now.

As long as your clinching an squeezing the torso while in lock down (like your supposed to) the indian death lock is really not a concern.

I'm just glad people actually know what the lockdown is about now. I remember seeing all the old videos showing a counter and it was always some silly shit. Just unhook the foot and pull your leg out, lockdown sucks lol. Now people realize that its way more dynamic than just clinching up someones leg and holding them. I agree, it's all for the better for us.

Let's just hope maybe...Just maybe MMA fighters will start learning some lockdown game & show the pure wrestlers (Whips Up) what's up.

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Originally Posted by Ben Vazquez

Let's just hope maybe...Just maybe MMA fighters will start learning some lockdown game & show the pure wrestlers (Whips Up) what's up.

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Dude, mma would be so much better if jiu jitsu guys would sweep more. STOP TRYING TO STAND UP! SWEEP, GROUND AND POUND, AND HUNT FOR SUBS FROM MOUNT

If you allow someone whose good as hell and their "A" game is lockdown to establish it, good luck. I concede electric chair sweeps to salvage my knees. Having said that, I don't just go around giving someone the lockdown for free. You gonna have to earn it and then some. Not allowing them to get to lockdown and being aware of the ways people obtain it is the ultimate preventative measure....or so I think at this time, I do reserve the right to change my opinion. Bring on the lockdown counters though, everyone I train with has had to address it for years now so nothing will change for me.

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Originally Posted by sean applegate

some of the videos are ok, some are not. there will be a new respect for it. new defenses will start popping up. isn't that why we are all with 10th planet though? for the evolution of the art?

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That's true, but its still interesting to see what they come up with, and how they got there.
Its a bit of an inside look at how their minds work.

Is there a 10PL standard method for dealing with/breaking the lockdown?

I can't recall any detailed instruction on MTS.

Love it!!!!

Sweet, gonna be alot of opportunities for the Dogfight now that everyone's looking for Electric Chairs, I like taking the back from there better anyway ;)

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Originally Posted by Peterm

Is there a 10PL standard method for dealing with/breaking the lockdown?

I can't recall any detailed instruction on MTS.

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A few I think. I know the buttocks compressor is my go to. You do jaws of life from the top to pummel under for your own double unders. Bring your shoulder to their stomach, gable grip under their ass, sprawl back. Haven't met a lockdown that didn't break.

Thanks for that David.

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

A few I think. I know the buttocks compressor is my go to. You do jaws of life from the top to pummel under for your own double unders. Bring your shoulder to their stomach, gable grip under their ass, sprawl back. Haven't met a lockdown that didn't break.

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• Warm Ups Series G (Top Half Passes)
o G1 - No hand pass to regular side control to knee slide mount to Upah escape
o G2 - Dominator pass to judo side to Brennan mount to failed upah to hail mary mount escape to the crippler

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Originally Posted by Martin Harris

• Warm Ups Series G (Top Half Passes)
o G1 - No hand pass to regular side control to knee slide mount to Upah escape
o G2 - Dominator pass to judo side to Brennan mount to failed upah to hail mary mount escape to the crippler

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Oh I didn't know no hands was official system material. I luvz no hands. Thought it was just BJJ basics. Not even being sarcastic.