Starting my quest for the Hotbox

So, I'd like to use this upcoming tournament (and future ones) to get the 10 wins necessary to do a Hotbox. It'll take a while, seeing that at brown we get 1 (or 2 max) matches per tournament, plus there are more gi tourneys here than no-gi.

I am starting a BJJ club at my university (I'm a prof there), which would allow me to have space, a body of eager grapplers, and no-cost to them without me going broke, I figure this would be pretty cool to do.

So, quick question: are Hotboxes allowed in universities? Technically, we would be called the Fairfield University 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu Hotbox. (Fairfield has to come first under uni rules.)

Second, embarrassing question, what exactly are you all doing with your fingers to throw out the 10th P sign? (I don't have a rash guard yet for this weekend and I'm an "auditory/textual" learner primarily, rather than visual).

thanks

Hm. Just reread the rules. I must have my rashguard already... my mistake, can i tape a printed piece of paper to my back? LOL j/k

I ran a hot box out of st joes university for awhile before I had to move. According to the school paperwork it was st Joes grappling club. Everywhere else it was 10p Philly hot box. Though in my case the club already existed and I just took it over.

Good luck with making it work

hey men nice adventure! kick some ass!

I'm working on the same idea at WPI in Worcester when I get there next week. I'm an alumnus and wrestled there so I'm thinking that we could be successful at getting a good group together. We could even do some university cross training in the future.

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Originally Posted by Kevin Gibbs

I ran a hot box out of st joes university for awhile before I had to move. According to the school paperwork it was st Joes grappling club. Everywhere else it was 10p Philly hot box. Though in my case the club already existed and I just took it over.

Good luck with making it work

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I'd like to chat sometime about how things operated out of the university and some other details. I'll hit you up on facebook if that's cool.

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Originally Posted by Kevin Gibbs

I ran a hot box out of st joes university for awhile before I had to move. According to the school paperwork it was st Joes grappling club. Everywhere else it was 10p Philly hot box. Though in my case the club already existed and I just took it over.

Good luck with making it work

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Yes, I figured this would be the case for ours, too. Just the "technical" name with the University has to have the schools name first for uniformity. After that, I'm sure it could be 10th Planet Connecticut Hotbox or whatever. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Aiseop

I am starting a BJJ club at my university (I'm a prof there), which would allow me to have space, a body of eager grapplers, and no-cost to them without me going broke, I figure this would be pretty cool to do.

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Sounds like a great set-up! Best of luck with your quest! :)

I am pretty sure Barncat ran his Hotbox out of his university for a couple of years till he got his own Moon.

Herzog is in charge of all the hotboxes. Study up on that guideline, and let him know you wanna be a hotbox candidate.

Be a cool guy and love Jiu jitsu and you'll love working with Zog. He's the best.

Unless you're a d-bag. I bet those guys hate him.

Good luck and let me know if I can be a help in any way!

Just talked to him and he cleared up a few things. All's good. :) Thanks, brother.

You're my hero; I can only dream about a future in which I'm a professor running a hotbox at a university. I have a few curriculum recommendations, though these are just my opinion and there are many more experienced instructors on this forum whose opinions carry more weight than mine. IE, if 'zog or McKatherine differ, follow them and ignore this fat nerd.

First, I think it is extremely beneficial to teach the same techniques every night for two weeks straight. This lets you dive into the nuances by the 2nd week, and it helps solidify them in students' minds. That's how Eddie runs things and it worked wonders for myself. Second, I would teach almost nothing except the warmups for perhaps six months. They contain a great well-rounded skillset, lacking only in some submissions perhaps (which is why I said 'almost'). If you have a good core of students, they'll be ninjas at them and you can switch to using them as actual 15-minute warmups. When new students come in, they'll see all of the ninjas looking slick and they'll say, "I want to look like that!". Since Eddie added the warmups to the curriculum at HQ, I've seen our success at competitions skyrocket.

Just my 2¢. Feel free to make fun of me if I've said something stupid, McCrackin'.

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Originally Posted by Amir Allam

You're my hero; I can only dream about a future in which I'm a professor running a hotbox at a university. I have a few curriculum recommendations, though these are just my opinion and there are many more experienced instructors on this forum whose opinions carry more weight than mine. IE, if 'zog or McKatherine differ, follow them and ignore this fat nerd.

First, I think it is extremely beneficial to teach the same techniques every night for two weeks straight. This lets you dive into the nuances by the 2nd week, and it helps solidify them in students' minds. That's how Eddie runs things and it worked wonders for myself. Second, I would teach almost nothing except the warmups for perhaps six months. They contain a great well-rounded skillset, lacking only in some submissions perhaps (which is why I said 'almost'). If you have a good core of students, they'll be ninjas at them and you can switch to using them as actual 15-minute warmups. When new students come in, they'll see all of the ninjas looking slick and they'll say, "I want to look like that!". Since Eddie added the warmups to the curriculum at HQ, I've seen our success at competitions skyrocket.

Just my 2¢. Feel free to make fun of me if I've said something stupid, McCrackin'.

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Serious question: How do you prevent people from getting bored doing the same technique every night for two weeks? I feel like when I teach the same thing 2 times in a row, let a lone 3, attention levels start to wane as compared to me saying "here is something new!"

I am totally on board and want to implement an approach like the one you describe, it's what I am used to from wrestling - but BJJ as a business I feel like there are different concerns like keeping students engaged. Obviously you/Eddie/HQ have found a solution to this, so whatever you are willing to share would be very, very much appreciated.

LOL'd at McKatherine.

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Originally Posted by NotReady

Serious question: How do you prevent people from getting bored doing the same technique every night for two weeks? I feel like when I teach the same thing 2 times in a row, let a lone 3, attention levels start to wane as compared to me saying "here is something new!"

I am totally on board and want to implement an approach like the one you describe, it's what I am used to from wrestling - but BJJ as a business I feel like there are different concerns like keeping students engaged. Obviously you/Eddie/HQ have found a solution to this, so whatever you are willing to share would be very, very much appreciated.

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From my experience, it's about progression. Adding a new element.

So, for example, let's say we're doing lock down. Zog would start us off doing maybe 10 minutes of reps of just lockdown, jaws of life to double unders. Then he would add a new element; the whip up. So we would get in another 10-15 minutes of reps of LD, jaws of life, double unders, whip up/fat whip. Then he'd add a new element. Old school. Then we'd finish the class with live situation drills where the goal is to get your double unders and hit old school on a 50% resistant opponent. Mix in the time it takes to actually teach, and you have one hour right there.

Next class, you start off the same. This is important to build muscle memory. And then you add the electric chair. Submission. Then you add the sweep and pass. Then you add stoner control. Then you add, then you add, then you add, until you have a student group who's put in like 100 reps in a matter of two weeks. It's the adding of new element that kept it interesting for me. It's the repetitions in the beginning that ingrained it in my muscle memory.

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Originally Posted by David Rosado

From my experience, it's about progression. Adding a new element.

So, for example, let's say we're doing lock down. Zog would start us off doing maybe 10 minutes of reps of just lockdown, jaws of life to double unders. Then he would add a new element; the whip up. So we would get in another 10-15 minutes of reps of LD, jaws of life, double unders, whip up/fat whip. Then he'd add a new element. Old school. Then we'd finish the class with live situation drills where the goal is to get your double unders and hit old school on a 50% resistant opponent. Mix in the time it takes to actually teach, and you have one hour right there.

Next class, you start off the same. This is important to build muscle memory. And then you add the electric chair. Submission. Then you add the sweep and pass. Then you add stoner control. Then you add, then you add, then you add, until you have a student group who's put in like 100 reps in a matter of two weeks. It's the adding of new element that kept it interesting for me. It's the repetitions in the beginning that ingrained it in my muscle memory.

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Good post, thanks for sharing.

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Originally Posted by Serge Bunimovich

I am pretty sure Barncat ran his Hotbox out of his university for a couple of years till he got his own Moon.

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Yeah, a university may be the BEST place to run a hotbox out of becouse you can get a semi profeprofessional thing going without overwhelming expense to do it for free. With either a garage situation or renting a mat space, you lose one of those two things.

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Originally Posted by Amir Allam

You're my hero; I can only dream about a future in which I'm a professor running a hotbox at a university. I have a few curriculum recommendations, though these are just my opinion and there are many more experienced instructors on this forum whose opinions carry more weight than mine. IE, if 'zog or McKatherine differ, follow them and ignore this fat nerd.

First, I think it is extremely beneficial to teach the same techniques every night for two weeks straight. This lets you dive into the nuances by the 2nd week, and it helps solidify them in students' minds. That's how Eddie runs things and it worked wonders for myself. Second, I would teach almost nothing except the warmups for perhaps six months. They contain a great well-rounded skillset, lacking only in some submissions perhaps (which is why I said 'almost'). If you have a good core of students, they'll be ninjas at them and you can switch to using them as actual 15-minute warmups. When new students come in, they'll see all of the ninjas looking slick and they'll say, "I want to look like that!". Since Eddie added the warmups to the curriculum at HQ, I've seen our success at competitions skyrocket.

Just my 2¢. Feel free to make fun of me if I've said something stupid, McCrackin'.

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+1

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Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren

Herzog is in charge of all the hotboxes. Study up on that guideline, and let him know you wanna be a hotbox candidate.

Be a cool guy and love Jiu jitsu and you'll love working with Zog. He's the best.

Unless you're a d-bag. I bet those guys hate him.

Good luck and let me know if I can be a help in any way!

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Yeah, they hate him. Lol