Georges St-Pierre Early Favorite in Possible Champ vs. Champ Bout with Nick Diaz

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05-22-2011, 06:28 PM
Cookie Monster

Georges St-Pierre Early Favorite in Possible Champ vs. Champ Bout with Nick Diaz

By Mike Chiappetta
MMA Writer mmafighting

Georges St-Pierre's next fight has not yet been decided. The UFC welterweight champion could either move up in weight to fight middleweight champion Anderson Silva, or he may stay put and face Strikeforce's 170-pound champ Nick Diaz.

It's a fight Diaz wants badly, and last Thursday, he was in Las Vegas to meet with UFC president Dana White and ask for it. The results of that meeting are so far unknown, but we can report there is no deal done just yet. But we also know that White is often quite receptive to fighters who passionately lobby for a specific fight.

Though the bout is not official, many believe it's a more likely possibility than St-Pierre vs. Silva, and in the earliest odds released for the bout, St-Pierre has been installed as a fairly large favorite.

MMA oddsmaker Nick Kalikas has installed St-Pierre is a -425 favorite over Diaz, making him an over 4-to-1 choice to win. Diaz is at +325.

St-Pierre (22-2) is the winner of nine straight bouts and has defended his belt six times in a row since re-capturing it with a win over Matt Serra in April 2008. Just three weeks ago, he held off Diaz's Cesar Gracie teammate Jake Shields via unanimous decision.

Diaz, though, has an even longer win streak than GSP, boasting 10 straight victories, including his most recent, an April 9 knockout of Paul Daley that moved his record to 25-7 with 1 no contest. Given Diaz's boxing ability and attacking jiu-jitsu style, many feel his skill set can offer St-Pierre more matchup problems than any top-ranked welterweight.

The prospect of a Silva vs. St-Pierre superfight still remains a possibility, but St-Pierre would find himself in the role of underdog there. As it currently stands, Silva is a -175 favorite. The middleweight champ has other things to think about first, however. He is currently booked for a UFC 134 title defense against Yushin Okami.
05-22-2011, 06:40 PM
Ash "Lottery" Woods

$5,000 on nick diaz to finish GSP would be looking nice then.... i'ma be a rich man
05-22-2011, 06:43 PM
Cookie Monster

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Originally Posted by Ashley Woods

$5,000 on nick diaz to finish GSP would be looking nice then.... i'ma be a rich man

i dont care what they say

diaz has one hell of a team and gsp is going to have work hard to beat him!
05-22-2011, 07:07 PM
Taylor Culbertson

I can't wait to see how George reacts to Nick talking shit and beating his ass at the same time. I see a new UFC WW champ in the near future.
05-23-2011, 01:35 AM
Spínola

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Originally Posted by Cookie Monster

i dont care what they say

diaz has one hell of a team and gsp is going to have work hard to beat him!

I'am not so sure. GSP probably will spend most rounds taking Diaz down, easily controlling where the fight takes place.

Jake shields is one of the best jiu jitsu guys on the ufc and he didn't even try to submit GSP, opting for the knockout punch. I really don't see Nick being able to submit GSP.

Still i would love to see the fight.
05-23-2011, 03:24 AM
Ash "Lottery" Woods

I think nick will be able to lay a few hands on gsp... The fight with shields barely hit the ground whereas we saw with the diego sanchez bout even when outclassed on the ground nick dosen't just lay still... I can see this being the fight of the year a new champ and a healthy bank account for me :)
05-23-2011, 04:53 AM
NelsonLucca

This will be the first fight I put some money on. 4-1 odds... I'm taking 209 all day. George is very smart and knows how to win. He knows he has to put Nick on his back. To do that he will have to get by Nick's preassure and barrage of punches. GSP has never been preassured the way Nick will preassure him. He's not comfortable in a fight. Also, if George puts Nick on his back, we could start hearing boos from the crowd. Nick is very active from guard and it's not in GSPs best interest to do more than just lay on him. At some point people are going to get tired of GSP and I think this is the fight. GSP bruises too easily and GSP is going to look bad after this fight. If Diaz doesn't get a late KO or TKO, I see the judges giving him the win anyway. Don't forget, these are boxing judges. I see this like Pernell Whitaker vs Felix Trinidad. Whitaker won the fight but Trinidad got the decision.
05-23-2011, 05:02 AM
Ash "Lottery" Woods

^^ one of the most perfect analysis i have read in regards to this fight i absolutely one million percent agree ... Gospel of nelson lol
05-23-2011, 05:35 AM
Spínola

I hope we get to find out who is right! :)
05-23-2011, 05:59 AM
Ash "Lottery" Woods

I just pray he dosen't bite the bait for the silva fight coz he isn't winning that one then the diaz haters will be out quicker than the gracie defence clan
05-23-2011, 09:37 AM
NelsonLucca

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Originally Posted by Ashley Woods

^^ one of the most perfect analysis i have read in regards to this fight i absolutely one million percent agree ... Gospel of nelson lol

Thanks Ashley. Either way, I think we all want to see the fight. Anderson Silva is too good for GSP. It's better just to fantasize about that fight then to actually watch it. Silva KO 1.
05-23-2011, 10:12 AM
Spínola

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Originally Posted by NelsonLucca

Thanks Ashley. Either way, I think we all want to see the fight. Anderson Silva is too good for GSP. It's better just to fantasize about that fight then to actually watch it. Silva KO 1.

Again, not so sure. Anderson ran away from Maia, and got beat up by Chael. Both Forrest and Belfort played Anderson's game and payed the price. Also, one thing is to submit a tired Chael Sonnen, submitting GSP is a complete different matter. Anderson tires quickly, GSP doesn't get tired. GSP has dominated every opponent in the last years, and even dominated Jake Shields after all the illegal eye pokes.

I think GSP has a very good chance if not the advantage against Anderson, is wrestling would make the difference.

I doubt Anderson would take the fight, he has a lot more to lose, i mean look at the size difference, it would be embarrassing, is legacy would be forever Tarnished.

One thing that bothers me is that all the champions say that they want to be more than Champions, they want to be the best ever. But when its time to prove it they all start backpedaling (i'am referring to GSP vs Silva, Anderson vs Jon Jones).

One final thing about Diaz, i didn't thought that he would be able to stand and bang against Paul Daley, and he proved me wrong.
05-23-2011, 11:01 AM
Andrew Maxwell

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Originally Posted by NelsonLucca

This will be the first fight I put some money on. 4-1 odds... I'm taking 209 all day. George is very smart and knows how to win. He knows he has to put Nick on his back. To do that he will have to get by Nick's preassure and barrage of punches. GSP has never been preassured the way Nick will preassure him. He's not comfortable in a fight. Also, if George puts Nick on his back, we could start hearing boos from the crowd. Nick is very active from guard and it's not in GSPs best interest to do more than just lay on him. At some point people are going to get tired of GSP and I think this is the fight. GSP bruises too easily and GSP is going to look bad after this fight. If Diaz doesn't get a late KO or TKO, I see the judges giving him the win anyway. Don't forget, these are boxing judges. I see this like Pernell Whitaker vs Felix Trinidad. Whitaker won the fight but Trinidad got the decision.

+1
05-23-2011, 02:31 PM
NelsonLucca

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Originally Posted by Spínola

Again, not so sure. Anderson ran away from Maia, and got beat up by Chael. Both Forrest and Belfort played Anderson's game and payed the price. Also, one thing is to submit a tired Chael Sonnen, submitting GSP is a complete different matter. Anderson tires quickly, GSP doesn't get tired. GSP has dominated every opponent in the last years, and even dominated Jake Shields after all the illegal eye pokes.
I think GSP has a very good chance if not the advantage against Anderson, is wrestling would make the difference.

I doubt Anderson would take the fight, he has a lot more to lose, i mean look at the size difference, it would be embarrassing, is legacy would be forever Tarnished.

One thing that bothers me is that all the champions say that they want to be more than Champions, they want to be the best ever. But when its time to prove it they all start backpedaling (i'am referring to GSP vs Silva, Anderson vs Jon Jones).

One final thing about Diaz, i didn't thought that he would be able to stand and bang against Paul Daley, and he proved me wrong.

On paper maybe. But Silva has the size advantage. Jake never went for a takedown, fought scared, and beat up GSPs face. Silva is very slick on his feet and avoids the takedown most of the time. Chael is bigger and stronger than GSP so that fight is irrelevant. Silva will frustrate us with his unwillingness to mix it up but he will catch GSP with an akward shot or Seagal kick to the face and it will be lights out. GSP is one of the all time greats and really has no weakness but there are certain guys that are a bad match up for him. Diaz and Silva are 2 of those guys. I respect any fighter willing to get in that cage and neither of the above mentioned are my favs, so those are just my opinions. I think part of the reason Dana hasn't made that fight is because he feels the same way. Silva by KO
05-23-2011, 03:08 PM
Spínola

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But Silva has the size advantage

Agree, big advantage there for Silva.

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Jake never went for a take down, fought scared, and beat up GSPs face.

He chose not to go down, because it wouldn't be worth it. More than scared, he is just clumsy on the standup and he just beat GSP face because he kept throwing open hands (which lead to several eye pokes).

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Chael is bigger and stronger than GSP so that fight is irrelevant.

Irrelevant??? I don't think so, it showed a major flaw on Andersons game and GSP is one of the most athletic fighters in the ufc. Also unlike chael and anderson he doesn't get tired.

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but he will catch GSP with an akward shot or Seagal kick to the face and it will be lights out.

He would catch him if GSP plays Andersons game. If he goes forward like chael he will neutralize the spider. Who has better game plans and take downs than GSP? very few...

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but there are certain guys that are a bad match up for him. Diaz and Silva are 2 of those guys

I would say the opposite, GSP is the perfect guy to defeat both Diaz and Silva. My main doubt is Andersons size, he looks so much bigger than GSP. I mean he looked bigger than forest:

http://media.fedstv.com.s3.amazonaws...a1ec716e63.jpg

I would love to see both fights.

Take care! ;)