A Sickening Display of "Law Enforcement" - Orlando Food Crimes

Look I don't normally post this kind of shit, but this is just ridiculous.

If you haven't seen this yet, you should certainly check it out.

If you live in the area, please provide an insiders perspective...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDD6F...ature=youtu.be

have at it boys and girls.

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Whats wrong with it?

The cops were justified here. Those people giving out food had their hearts in the right place, but without a permit *which is EASY to obtain* they would not have been held accountable for food poisoning, have had any official food handling oversight which would protect the kids. Again, I totally would be on board to work a soup kitchen or a feed the kids community service event, but the cops here were doing the right thing since this requires a permit to do.

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Originally Posted by Enrique "Kiko"

The cops were justified here. Those people giving out food had their hearts in the right place, but without a permit *which is EASY to obtain* they would not have been held accountable for food poisoning, have had any official food handling oversight which would protect the kids. Again, I totally would be on board to work a soup kitchen or a feed the kids community service event, but the cops here were doing the right thing since this requires a permit to do.

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10-4 good buddy. :)

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Originally Posted by Enrique "Kiko"

The cops were justified here. Those people giving out food had their hearts in the right place, but without a permit *which is EASY to obtain* they would not have been held accountable for food poisoning, have had any official food handling oversight which would protect the kids. Again, I totally would be on board to work a soup kitchen or a feed the kids community service event, but the cops here were doing the right thing since this requires a permit to do.

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I understand your point, and the law, but it's more about having some trace of empathy.

Read up on the Orlando permits for that kind of thing, they are VERY limited.

Good ole excuse, its the law right?
It was the law one time that blacks and whites couldn't piss together,
does that make it right?

Obviously I can see the glaring difference in racism and arresting people
feeding the homeless - the point being that just because it's the law, that
doesn't make it all right, and that's a lame excuse to be a complete asshole.

Good job Stephen way to use the jiu jitsu forum to preach your political views

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Originally Posted by Stephen G.

I understand your point, and the law, but it's more about having some trace of empathy.

Read up on the Orlando permits for that kind of thing, they are VERY limited.

Good ole excuse, its the law right?
It was the law one time that blacks and whites couldn't piss together,
does that make it right?

Obviously I can see the glaring difference in racism and arresting people
feeding the homeless - the point being that just because it's the law, that
doesn't make it all right, and that's a lame excuse to be a complete asshole.

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I'm sure big business has it set up so those permits are really easy for them to get. :-P

I completely agree with ya Stephen. This is the kind of thing that make cops look really bad. I understand they were "doing their job" but good lord people. How many actual dangerous crimes took place throughout the city of Orlando while they were serving and protecting. I was a cop in South FL at one point, before my military disabilities caught up to me, and I would have done the exact same thing those cops did back then. I am a completely different person now and I credit alot of that to 10th Planet. It has opened my eyes to the grey world, nothing is usually black and white. I lived like it was for a long time and it was either wrong or right. I am still like that to a point but I see with my eyes not with the mans eyes. This was clearly morally wrong, but it was also against the law unfortunately. Of course Im originally from Texas and have never seen anything like that happen where people get arrested for feeding people. I really doubt you would have to pay for a stupid permit that says you can help people in a public park.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Woolsey

I completely agree with ya Stephen. This is the kind of thing that make cops look really bad. I understand they were "doing their job" but good lord people. How many actual dangerous crimes took place throughout the city of Orlando while they were serving and protecting. I was a cop in South FL at one point, before my military disabilities caught up to me, and I would have done the exact same thing those cops did back then. I am a completely different person now and I credit alot of that to 10th Planet. It has opened my eyes to the grey world, nothing is usually black and white. I lived like it was for a long time and it was either wrong or right. I am still like that to a point but I see with my eyes not with the mans eyes. This was clearly morally wrong, but it was also against the law unfortunately. Of course Im originally from Texas and have never seen anything like that happen where people get arrested for feeding people. I really doubt you would have to pay for a stupid permit that says you can help people in a public park.

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Would you of done this?

http://www.birkaction.com/

Or was this popo just crazy?

That is some fucked up shit!! Hell no I would not have done that. That cop was just fucking trigger happy. That is some bullshit I think I heard someone say congratulations to him. He clearly saw that he was carving the board. What a dumb fuck!! That dude should be in jail.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Woolsey

That is some fucked up shit!! Hell no I would not have done that. That cop was just fucking trigger happy. That is some bullshit I think I heard someone say congratulations to him. He clearly saw that he was carving the board. What a dumb fuck!! That dude should be in jail.

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I strongly agree.

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Originally Posted by Christopher Piper

I'm sure big business has it set up so those permits are really easy for them to get. :-P

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I'm sure it has more to do with classism and richer people not wanting transients to "sully" their parks and public areas. In Santa Monica the police actually shuttle the homeless from the beach back to skid row. Additionally, skid row has become a tent city homeless community because most of the social service for the homeless are located there. Subsequently many of them stay there creating a homeless town within the city... driving property values down and effecting the value of the area.

http://pixdaus.com/pics/ns6QtWKtHBwEbTi6ZG.jpg
Skid Row on 5th and Los Angeles, East of Broadway

So though I understand the concern of creating concentrated areas of homeless people their concern is misguided. They should be concerned with avoiding centralized clusters of social services since that is what causes these tent cities to spring up. Park feedings can actually help to decentralize the homeless population since they distribute from mobile areas away from the skid row sections of the city. It's the "out of sight out of mind" mentality and processing which actually creates these tent cities not private or public social services.

This is all bullshit! The assholes could have gotten a permit. But they didn't want too....apparently if you read the sign in the beginning "jesus didn't need a permit".....Guess what if jesus was alive right now...YES he would need a permit in a public park. A "Public" park doesn't give any asshole the right to do what they want even if you our a taxpayer! ***THIS WAS A SET UP***they knew they where going to get arrested, that's why there was so many video camera going!!! And to the people on this thread who are upset with the police actions...this wasn't about feeding a child or the poor or about wrong or right...This was a dumb fuck, religious group or people demonstrating!!! If they wanted to feed children or the poor they could have done it at their church or at their own houses!!! But no they were making a stance. Sorry but there are laws in this world,(Right or Wrong) and they had other options but decided against them....Thank You Orlando Police Department....see this video for what it really was.........

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Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge

This is all bullshit! The assholes could have gotten a permit. But they didn't want too....apparently if you read the sign in the beginning "jesus didn't need a permit".....Guess what if jesus was alive right now...YES he would need a permit in a public park. A "Public" park doesn't give any asshole the right to do what they want even if you our a taxpayer! ***THIS WAS A SET UP***they knew they where going to get arrested, that's why there was so many video camera going!!! And to the people on this thread who are upset with the police actions...this wasn't about feeding a child or the poor or about wrong or right...This was a dumb fuck, religious group or people demonstrating!!! If they wanted to feed children or the poor they could have done it at their church or at their own houses!!! But no they were making a stance. Sorry but there are laws in this world,(Right or Wrong) and they had other options but decided against them....Thank You Orlando Police Department....see this video for what it really was.........

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+1 perfectly said, funny how no one questions why there were like 30 cameras on scene, and not just cell phone cameras but high tech crap with boom mikes

Citing the law as a justification of the law is a cyclical debate that is logically flawed.

It's called "civil disobedience". Clearly these people are at odds with the law and do not agree with it. When people feel that a law is immoral or unjust it will sometimes morally behoove them to publicly violate it as a form of demonstration. The entire civil rights movement was based upon this philosophy. Even then people were saying things like, "That's what those idiots get, they knew damn well that it was against the law for coloreds to go into that deli and drink from the white people fountain."

Clearly they are breaking the law, but the debate here is about whether or not the law is valid.

"Ordinarily, a person leaving a courtroom with a conviction behind him would wear a somber face. But I left with a smile. I knew that I was a convicted criminal, but I was proud of my crime." ~Martin Luther King, Jr., March 22, 1956

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Originally Posted by Eric Perez

+1 perfectly said, funny how no one questions why there were like 30 cameras on scene, and not just cell phone cameras but high tech crap with boom mikes

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Good job Eric way to use the jiu jitsu forum to preach your political views

Yeah, I feel to it was more motivated to bait the cops into looking bad over helping the kids. If the kids were the primary concern, they would have set it up so the cops couldn't mess with them. The thing with that is, if you want to make cops look bad, you don't need to pull stuff like this to do so. There are bad cops out there, but not all cops are bad, and not all laws are misguided.

Yes, I said it was a demonstration. They have a right to demonstrate. What some people forget is there is consequence's to demonstrating. So protest away because permits will never go away! But when some people are missing the point that this wasn't about feeding the children and poor, I have a problem about it! I'm starting my own protest...that all churches need to start to pay taxes!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge

all churches need to start to pay taxes!!!!!!

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Amen brother. Amen

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Originally Posted by Eric Perez

+1 perfectly said, funny how no one questions why there were like 30 cameras on scene, and not just cell phone cameras but high tech crap with boom mikes

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"Establishment establishment, you always know what's best." Also it's come to my attention that a few bad on this forum have been using mary-joo-wanna...that stuff is ILLEGAL my friend, not cool....not cool.
lol

*Apples

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This exactly.

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Originally Posted by Enrique "Kiko"

The cops were justified here. Those people giving out food had their hearts in the right place, but without a permit *which is EASY to obtain* they would not have been held accountable for food poisoning, have had any official food handling oversight which would protect the kids. Again, I totally would be on board to work a soup kitchen or a feed the kids community service event, but the cops here were doing the right thing since this requires a permit to do.

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This too, right on.

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Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge

This is all bullshit! The assholes could have gotten a permit. But they didn't want too....apparently if you read the sign in the beginning "jesus didn't need a permit".....Guess what if jesus was alive right now...YES he would need a permit in a public park. A "Public" park doesn't give any asshole the right to do what they want even if you our a taxpayer! ***THIS WAS A SET UP***they knew they where going to get arrested, that's why there was so many video camera going!!! And to the people on this thread who are upset with the police actions...this wasn't about feeding a child or the poor or about wrong or right...This was a dumb fuck, religious group or people demonstrating!!! If they wanted to feed children or the poor they could have done it at their church or at their own houses!!! But no they were making a stance. Sorry but there are laws in this world,(Right or Wrong) and they had other options but decided against them....Thank You Orlando Police Department....see this video for what it really was.........

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Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge

Sorry but there are laws in this world,(Right or Wrong) and they had other options but decided against them....

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funny how you never seem to bring this up on any of the weed threads, or "passing a drug test" threads.

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Originally Posted by AJ Camacho

Citing the law as a justification of the law is a cyclical debate that is logically flawed.

It's called "civil disobedience". Clearly these people are at odds with the law and do not agree with it. When people feel that a law is immoral or unjust it will sometimes morally behoove them to publicly violate it as a form of demonstration. The entire civil rights movement was based upon this philosophy. Even then people were saying things like, "That's what those idiots get, they knew damn well that it was against the law for coloreds to go into that deli and drink from the white people fountain."

Clearly they are breaking the law, but the debate here is about whether or not the law is valid.

"Ordinarily, a person leaving a courtroom with a conviction behind him would wear a somber face. But I left with a smile. I knew that I was a convicted criminal, but I was proud of my crime." ~Martin Luther King, Jr., March 22, 1956

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agreed. those people have nothing to be ashamed of.

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Originally Posted by Steven Daniels

This too, right on.

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Legally right? Definitely.

Morally right. Debatable.

Let's get this straight, I didn't make one goddam political statement.
And you've GOT to be shitting me about turning this forum into my own
grandstand, have you read ANY of the other ridiculous posts around here?

Next time any of you post anything about anything illegal, I'm gonna jump
all over it. Let me guess, what you do is justified, but these dirty hippies?
Fuck them right? Get over yourselves.

And yes, they knew they were going to get arrested, because it was the 3rd
time the cops hunted them down in a park to arrest them for feeding the homeless.

Next time you guys are down on your luck, let's see if you want those who
are trying to help to get arrested.

The cameras are there to keep the cops clean, because Orlando cops
are notorious for shooting then asking questions later.

Let me guess, all you saw was some dumbass hippies trying to get attention.
You think that's what the people eating saw?

Go through your life and do only as your told, brainwashed robots.

(my plan to infiltrate the Nibiru forums and spread my political malice is working!!!)

ok, basically they are at Lake Eola, Lake Eola is a huge hangout for homeless people. Orlando has gotten very strict with the homeless. They passed this law to prevent the homeless from panhandling food from the hundreds of working people that eat luch at the park. These asshole were trying to be cute and give away free food, it was even advertised on local radio stations. Basically they were trying to tell the police that they are above the law and could give out food where ever and when ever they want. The cops should have beat the idiots that organized it... and this is VERY old btw

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Originally Posted by Eric Perez

Good job Stephen way to use the jiu jitsu forum to preach your political views

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And by the way, there's only one forum here, and that's how Eddie wants it.
So get over it and don't tell anyone else what they can and can't post.

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Originally Posted by Dean Nowling

ok, basically they are at Lake Eola, Lake Eola is a huge hangout for homeless people. Orlando has gotten very strict with the homeless. They passed this law to prevent the homeless from panhandling food from the hundreds of working people that eat luch at the park. These asshole were trying to be cute and give away free food, it was even advertised on local radio stations. Basically they were trying to tell the police that they are above the law and could give out food where ever and when ever they want. The cops should have beat the idiots that organized it... and this is VERY old btw

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Uhhh, this just happened 2 days ago. The cops should have beat them? Grow up.

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Originally Posted by Stephen G.

Let's get this straight, I didn't make one goddam political statement.
And you've GOT to be shitting me about turning this forum into my own
grandstand, have you read ANY of the other ridiculous posts around here?

Next time any of you post anything about anything illegal, I'm gonna jump
all over it. Let me guess, what you do is justified, but these dirty hippies?
Fuck them right? Get over yourselves.

And yes, they knew they were going to get arrested, because it was the 3rd
time the cops hunted them down in a park to arrest them for feeding the homeless.

Next time you guys are down on your luck, let's see if you want those who
are trying to help to get arrested.

The cameras are there to keep the cops clean, because Orlando cops
are notorious for shooting then asking questions later.

Let me guess, all you saw was some dumbass hippies trying to get attention.
You think that's what the people eating saw?

Go through your life and do only as your told, brainwashed robots.

(my plan to infiltrate the Nibiru forums and spread my political malice is working!!!)

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There are more than enough shelters in Orlando for these idiots to get free food. We police the homeless because homeless people arent exactly upstanding citizens. The area they are in is full of downtown workers and children, I DO NOT want homeless people hanging around a childrens playground or begging me for food while Im on my lunch break... Fuck the homeless, they can take there lazy asses down to Workforce Central Florida and get a job

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Originally Posted by Stephen G.

Uhhh, this just happened 2 days ago. The cops should have beat them? Grow up.

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That makes it even worse... These people are pure idiots.

I live in Austin man, we've got more homeless for our population
than almost anywhere in America. I don't give a shit if they ask
me for money or food, I just say no. I don't call in a request to
the cops to come beat the shit out of them.

So you have the right to say fuck them, but these people don't have
the right to try to feed them. Once again, get the fuck over yourself.

You're a hard working man, guess what, no one gives a shit.

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Originally Posted by Dean Nowling

Basically they were trying to tell the police that they are above the law and could give out food where ever and when ever they want.

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Fucking FACEPALM -1000

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Originally Posted by Stephen G.

I live in Austin man, we've got more homeless for our population
than almost anywhere in America. I don't give a shit if they ask
me for money or food, I just say no. I don't call in a request to
the cops to come beat the shit out of them.

So you have the right to say fuck them, but these people don't have
the right to try to feed them. Once again, get the fuck over yourself.

You're a hard working man, guess what, no one gives a shit.

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You must be stupid. If they simply just asked for food or money we wouldnt make laws like this. You dont live in Orlando and you dont know how much crime these losers create. You want creepy homeless people hanging around the park your children play at? Its a law for a reason so get over yourself, stay in Austin with the honest law abiding homeless people and you wont have any problems, in fact, have some kids and invite the homeless man to babysit. Then he can eat your food and rape your kids while youre hard at work.

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Originally Posted by Dean Nowling

in fact, have some kids and invite the homeless man to babysit. Then he can eat your food and rape your kids while youre hard at work.

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Yes, take this to the retarded extreme.

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Originally Posted by Stephen G.

Yes, take this to the retarded extreme.

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Do you know how many rapes and kid nappings there have been in that area? NO... so shut the fuck up.

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Originally Posted by Dean Nowling

Do you know how many rapes and kid nappings there have been in that area? NO... so shut the fuck up.

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Do you? tell me now, dont look it up, or shut the fuck up.

Just because you fear the homeless, doesn't mean we all do.