NOGI techniques in GI Competition

hi guys was wondering if it is legal to use nogi techniques such as darce chokes, peruvian neckties, anacondas, arm triangles in gi competitions. some guys in england put together a chart of legal techniques but it seems a bit undetailed, im competing at white belt, if anyones got any info would appreciate it so i dont get disqualified. i know stuff like the can opener, 100 percent, twister etc are ilegal cos they r cranks but not sure if the ref will see me doing a neck tie for example and deem it a neck crank?

http://bjjhertfordshire.co.uk/bjj-te...niques-by-belt

All of those subs should be cool. I've used the darce in gi comps.

The can opener is almost always illegal, the 100% is usually legal if you aren't using it as a neck crank, and the twister is almost always illegal. At least that's the way it is here.

I can tell you that with some modification you can do almost every single one, even the Twister but using a choke instead. My version of the Peruvian Gi tie is crazy:-) I´m doing videos for all 10thplanet stuff for the Official Planetxjj (10th in a Gi stylin) soon to come! stay tuned, you can now register at www.planetxjj.com

do u know if they weigh u in before the fight with ur belt on aswell as the gi, cos without the belt im under the weight and with the belt im two points of a pound over, do u have to be dead on ur weight eg 76kg on the spot or do they let u off with a pound over?

Its going to depend on the organisers, but under IBJJF rules, its witht he belt on. Its 76kg with the gi, if you're over, you're over. I know that sucks, but you have to be fair - I have dropped up to 9kg to make the 67(+3)kg class before, and with what I went through, I would be furious if they let some guy come in over.

How long do you have until the comp? I can give you some simple advice, tailored to how much you are over and how much time you have left :)

-how much do you weigh in the morning when you wake up?
-how much does your gi weigh?
-how long before competing do you weigh in? (day before, 1 hour or more before, immediately before your match)

Ill do what I can :)

As an aside, its quite hard to get a tight enough grip with most of the front headlock series due to the bulk of the gi collar - get your coach or a team mate to show you the clock choke or the modified "t-rex arm" guillotine (alternatively known as the 'bread basket choke'), these are great for gi comps in lieu of your normal d'arce or anaconda.

its ibjjf, the comp is tomorrow and starts at 11, i am currently 73.9 kg without the gi and 76.3 with the gi and belt,( i think the belt is quite heavy cos im pretty sure im like 75.3 without it. this morning when i woke up i weighed 74.9 kg. im pretty sure i weigh in b4 my 1st fight with gi and belt

any advice u could give me would b great the problem has been is that this week i had a cold and sciatica so training has been limited and fluids have needed to be drunk

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Originally Posted by Magnus Hansson

My version of the Peruvian Gi tie is crazy:-)

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Renato may consider this type of talk foreplay.

+1

james was wondering whether to jog tonight to lose some weight or in morning and use a bath and loads of layers when i sleep to lose 2 kg for when i wake up tomorrow?

Hope I'm not too late. I wouldn't advise any strenuous activities. Weigh yourself in the evening, with the gi on. You need to be within 1kg of the limit, hopefully less.

Take a bath, as hot as you can handle. Submerge yourself as much as possible. I find that I lose about 1kg in 30 minutes.

I like to be on weight with the gi on before going to bed. When I wake up I put it back on and eat/drink according to how much weight I have to play with.

If you are competing immediately before your match, emphasize fluid intake in the morning. Gatorade will help you get your elelctrolytes back. Pack sone energy dense food to chow on after your first match.

Good luck, let us know how you go!!

unfortunately u were, but was no biggy, i took the bath but as iv been ill felt light headed and had a glass of water b4 bed, woke up like 76.6, had to run for 3o minutes, brouhgt it down to 76.3, drove 3o mins to venue, went for another run ( had no water in morning or food), ended up getting the gold medallist in the 1st fight, was close fight ended up being 4-3 for him, i can only liken what i felt like to going out drinking the night before a day of sport, at one point i thought i may throw up, y cardio is usually one of my strengths but not today lol,

fight started we moved around he pulled guard, passed the guard staright away, got into side control, he reversed it got me down, got up on the feet he pulled guard again, he was in my guard for a bit but had really good posture, think he passed it and then he was just stalling and controlling then ended up 4-3, i was like fuck, then nxt fight submitted guy with bow an arrow choke, then nxt guy with an armtriangle ended up taking bronze

i chose not to bother my coach and ask him to come down with me but god do i wish that i did, took my little bro with me but there was no points score or time he could watch to tell me, would have been great to get some advice during the fight aswell, at one point i would have passed the guard twice but he had my sleeves and had one foot in the elbow on the opposite side i was passing so couldnt pass, i should have opened up my guard aswell when he had good posture, 1st comp though, my brain was going a mile a minute and just couldnt work out the score or what strategy i needed, oh well nxt ones on the 22nd il put the things i learned from today and this week into poractice nxt time

Sorry to hear that mate. Well done nonetheless. Try to watch your weight so that you can have a nice breakfast :) try to get a copy of John Berardi's "Guide to Grappler's Nutrition", it should help you tremendously.