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    Very rarely do I get into position to use this effectively, and usually only on white belts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Herzog View Post
    Jeff if a really nice guy, however I can tell you the puppet master series needed more work before putting the videos out. It didn't pass the test at my school.
    ^^^Yes! Zog and I agree 100%. Me asking if it was officially in the system was my white belt version of this ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Herzog View Post
    Jeff if a really nice guy, however I can tell you the puppet master series needed more work before putting the videos out. It didn't pass the test at my school.
    He even says in one of his videos "well I was thinking about this on the plane and needed to film it"..Difficult to make it seem legit with out the reps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottRay View Post
    ^^^Yes! Zog and I agree 100%. Me asking if it was officially in the system was my white belt version of this ^^
    Thats a pretty round about way of you saying you dont think its legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent Smith View Post
    He even says in one of his videos "well I was thinking about this on the plane and needed to film it"..Difficult to make it seem legit with out the reps.
    I was being nice. He came to my school to train with his family and rolled with me and some my students. Super nice people, and they were down with the system. However that being said It was tested, it failed.
    My philosophy about making videos, I don't post anything I don't hit myself or that some of my killers are hittting.
    Last edited by Chris Herzog; 07-07-2013 at 07:08 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Herzog View Post
    I was being nice. He came to my school to train with his family and rolled with me and some my students. Super nice people, and they were down with the system. However that being said It was tested, it failed.
    My philosophy about making videos, I don't post anything I don't hit myself or that some of my killers are hittting.
    Ahhhhh lol.
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    Well at least you gave it a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Herzog View Post
    I was being nice. He came to my school to train with his family and rolled with me and some my students. Super nice people, and they were down with the system. However that being said It was tested, it failed.
    My philosophy about making videos, I don't post anything I don't hit myself or that some of my killers are hittting.
    I agree with that philosophy 100%. May I ask what glaring holes you found in the position/setups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent Smith View Post
    I agree with that philosophy 100%. May I ask what glaring holes you found in the position/setups?
    It never got off the ground floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Herzog View Post
    It never got off the ground floor.
    Im not quite sure what that means. You're gonna have to dumb it down for me. Me no smart lol.

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