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    What're your go to dog fight counters?

    Sweeps? Subs? Some kind of weird rolling uchi mata type business? Anything?
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    Does he have the underhook? Foot trapped?

    Clarify posish. Every situation has completely different concepts.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB2YsaK4hM4

    I like the Joe Lauzon triangle on Jamie Varner in the first clip, they're only in dog fight for a split second but it works pretty well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobby rivers View Post
    Does he have the underhook? Foot trapped?

    Clarify posish. Every situation has completely different concepts.
    Yes, he has the underhook, I have the whizzer.
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    I can only think of two things to do there. Vice grip attacks or an armbar. But honestly, I don't put up much of a fight in dogfight when I have the overhook. I just pull guard.

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    The Red Baron! Alder showed it to me back in 09. Limp leg out the trapped leg, keep the whizzer than grab the far arm on the tricep with your other arm then pull the arm across his body towards you, than do a Harai Goshi (Sweeping hip throw) from the knees. Land into side control with the overhook all ready in, and finish with a d'arce.
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    Pull out trapped leg, front headlock.

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    Think scissor leg takedown into honey hole.

    Nathan Orchard showed us this in Gulf Shores.

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    I don't have a go too personally, I don't train with many people that go to dog fight often enough. Matt Thornton's functional JKD 3 had some good stuff though, including the uchimata type throw. A lot of you may find this old wrestling instructional handy, as it spends a lot of time in the position, (it assumes at times you have beaten the leg)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ1sGcbt7sk

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    Wow there's so much here lol!


    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Herzog View Post
    The Red Baron! Alder showed it to me back in 09. Limp leg out the trapped leg, keep the whizzer than grab the far arm on the tricep with your other arm then pull the arm across his body towards you, than do a Harai Goshi (Sweeping hip throw) from the knees. Land into side control with the overhook all ready in, and finish with a d'arce.
    So limp leg and replace on the outside of far one, followed by the sweeping motion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Mccaghren View Post
    Think scissor leg takedown into honey hole.

    Nathan Orchard showed us this in Gulf Shores.

    High five. Like very much.
    Is that the one he showed from turtle? I can envision switching to a wedge/honey hole control on the far knee, taking the free leg and pinch the trapped leg between my legs and then doing a sort of side roll backwards, maybe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Gamble View Post
    I don't have a go too personally, I don't train with many people that go to dog fight often enough. Matt Thornton's functional JKD 3 had some good stuff though, including the uchimata type throw. A lot of you may find this old wrestling instructional handy, as it spends a lot of time in the position, (it assumes at times you have beaten the leg)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ1sGcbt7sk
    This has so much! Only watched the first 12 mins but there's a lot of gold already. Kinda seemed like it (maybe?) explained coach Zog's suggestion.
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