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    Ryan Hall Teaching The Twister Roll

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    Ryan Hall covering his version of TSC, the Twister Roll, and more.

    "The lockdown is not the 10th Planet gospel; an open mind is the 10th Planet gospel."
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    why take a 10th planet tech and make it not work as good... just seems like he wanted to make it better and failed... the lockdown gives you way more control, so why not use it ?

    Ryan Hall should have MTTT on his xmas list

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    I like the roll over the knee in half guard advise, learnt something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watty31 View Post
    I like the roll over the knee in half guard advise, learnt something.
    rep it with hooking a lockdown, just like from the quarterguard. I tried this and the dude I was rolling with got out like 80% of the time. with the lockdown in I always get to the truck.

    works better for me anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by nabbflax View Post
    why take a 10th planet tech and make it not work as good... just seems like he wanted to make it better and failed... the lockdown gives you way more control, so why not use it ?

    Ryan Hall should have MTTT on his xmas list
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    Just so you guys know, twister side control is also called ushiro kesa gatame. The truck is also a sambo position. EVERYTHING has most likely been done before somewhere.

    And Ryan Hall could kick most people on here's asses.

    Just sayin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Madsen View Post
    Just so you guys know, twister side control is also called ushiro kesa gatame. The truck is also a sambo position. EVERYTHING has most likely been done before somewhere.

    And Ryan Hall could kick most people on here's asses.

    Just sayin'.
    I believe ushiro kesa gatame is performed by positioning you hips above your opponent's shoulder (allowing you to wrap up your opponent's arm like you were cradling a football) whereas Twister Side control is performed with your hips below your opponent's shoulder. Similar body position for sure, but different application. Like the difference between being in someone's full guard vs being in full mount; your body position is the same, but relative to your opponent the little variation can make a huge difference!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Madsen View Post
    Just so you guys know, twister side control is also called ushiro kesa gatame. The truck is also a sambo position. EVERYTHING has most likely been done before somewhere.

    And Ryan Hall could kick most people on here's asses.

    Just sayin'.
    dude, they weren't questioning Ryan's ability just his method to getting to the truck. And while everything has been done before, there are slight variations in the techniques which make one technique superior to another.
    The twister is eddie's go to move for 15 years or so. He has refined that monster like a piece of art work for the same amount of time. I would bet he has put in at least 10x more twister rolls than ryan. We're not bashing ryan for the sake of it, Ryan's a beast. Just that when there is a better way to do it, it should be pointed out, how else does one learn. JUST SAYING .

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    but when the entire rest of his game is based in trad. 1/2 guard, why would he use lockdown in this single situation?

    seems unnecessary, especially when he doesn't stay in the truck and simply transitions to the back.

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