Originally Posted by
Alexander N
The picture clearly shows Geo got free, end of story. Whatever entangling happened after while he's waving his hands in celebration is totally irrelevant. Your argument seems to stem from your notion that Eddie Cummings is dangerous from there as it is likely he'll be able to get to a controlling and finishing position shortly after- it'd be a ridiculous ruleset that governs based on particular individual's perceived likelihood to get to a match finish from whatever spot.
The picture shows that while yes Eddie Cummings lost upper body control, he still had control of the leg and transferred almost immediately to a leg entanglement, that could have very well led to a submission attempt.. That is NOT Geo "clearly getting free"... When the match was stopped Eddie had Geos leg FULLY entangled.. It would be one thing if he stopped where the picture is, but he was deep on Geo's leg... "Your argument seems to stem from your notion that Eddie Cummings is dangerous from there as it is likely he'll be able to get to a controlling and finishing position shortly after- it'd be a ridiculous ruleset that governs based on particular individual's perceived likelihood to get to a match finish from whatever spot"... Not necessarily, I am simply questioning some of the finer points of the rules.. In fact Eddie (Bravo) himself has specifically said that if Eddie (Cummings) - specifically used him as an example - transfers to a leg lock the match the match continues... The first time in OT it happens, and the match ends? In my opinion, if you're going to implement a rule set based on escapes, you should have to escape to a relatively safe position... Not just losing upper body control, and winning even though your leg is still in danger... Let's ask this question (And I hope anyone feels free to answer because its another genuine question), If someone takes the back in OT, and the person escapes to guard, but as the person is getting to guard the person (now on bottom) throws up a triangle, but doesn't fully lock it in right away? Does the match end or keep going?
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