Whipping up someone way heavier in half guard ?

[Ironsal]

I was Rolling with this 20 year old Sambo guy (i am just 13) and he weighs WAY more than i do, at least a 60 lbs diference, we started and he went quick and pinned me on a wall and went for a slam, he was in side-control , i succesfuly transitioned to half guard and got the Lockdown, i had both underhooks but i couldnt Whip up ! he was Way heavier than me, so we just stayed there in half guard till it was over !
So is there a way to whip up someone way heavier than you ? and if no then what type of half guard to play when someone Heavy is on you ?
Thanks guys, this is my first post in the Nibiru Forum !

[Will Thaxton]

Find a video of the thumbs up tech Coah Alder teaches. Sometimes it's not just one motion. You inch by inch move out. Try to move him but also scoot your own butt out. When it takes a long time to get on your side be ready for forearms in your neck. Squeeze those double unders.

[Ironsal]

Find a video of the thumbs up tech Coah Alder teaches. Sometimes it's not just one motion. You inch by inch move out. Try to move him but also scoot your own butt out. When it takes a long time to get on your side be ready for forearms in your neck. Squeeze those double unders.

What is the "thumbs up tech Coah Alder teaches" and it seems i found nothing about it on the net !
could you post a link for more help.

[David Stager]

http://www.lockflow.com/grappling-te...ip-new-version

I've heard it called the fat man whip-up too.

[David Stager]

Sometimes it's not just one motion. You inch by inch move out. Try to move him but also scoot your own butt out.

+1 If he's not moving, trying getting to your side with him on top of you. Just as true for the whip down.

[Ironsal]

Dude thanks ! this really helps , and its easy to go to Electric chair from there, just what i need to do when i roll with him again !
Any other suggestions ?

[David Stager]

I've heard it called the fat man whip-up too.

Scratch that. It seems that the fat man whip-up was coined by Ari Bolden and is different from the thumbs up whip-up. He demonstrates it toward the end of this video:

[Ari Bolden]

Zog is actually the guy who has the best version of the whip up for big dudes. I stole his technique (I simply call it the PIMP ARM whip up). It is the inch by inch movement mentioned above.

[David Stager]

Any other suggestions ?

Whip down (sometimes called the whip back). Let's say you normally whip up to your right side. Well, the whip down is the opposite, so you end up on your left side. From there you can try for the "Five O" Sweep, or if you can free your head from his left arm, you can go for the electric chair again. MTS episode 4, 21:44 demonstrates the Five O Sweep, episode 15, 2:19 demonstrates a heel hook from the whip down, but Eddie mentions the electric chair as an option (in case heel hooks aren't allowed).

[David Stager]

Zog is actually the guy who has the best version of the whip up for big dudes. I stole his technique (I simply call it the PIMP ARM whip up). It is the inch by inch movement mentioned above.

I had a 250 lbs guy in my lockdown the other day, and I wish I had thought to use the pimp arm as you suggest.