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    Crack head control- what's your go to from here?

    Been playing with crack head a lot lately, guys at my gym are stacking me heavy now. What do you guys like to do to combat the stack? What do you like to do to prevent the stack when you first hit CHC?. Trying to get some ideas since being a Ronin.

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    Invisible collar ASAP.
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    Dead orchard alllll day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent Smith View Post
    Dead orchard alllll day
    What he said! One of my go to's. Won 3 times in my last 3 comps with it ;p also, make sure to trap a leg if they stand

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    If u have lanky legs, dead orchard is almost unstoppable. For me I'll get IC somehow someway since I'm in full rubber guard, prolly the invisible crackhead route
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    Dead orchard unless they are too stocky in which case crackhead is extra control for me to pursue getting the hand to the mat, lots of options with crackhead

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    Thanks guys. I'll work on that Dead Orchard from there. Thanks for taking some time from your busy schedule to help out Eddie, very much appreciated. I fucking love the forums, such a big help.

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    Anyone got some tricks for getting dead orchard when you don't have spider legs? Or is it just a no go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaac Atley View Post
    Anyone got some tricks for getting dead orchard when you don't have spider legs? Or is it just a no go?
    Transition from Crackhead to Invisible Crackhead. From there, if your pump is on point, you can sometimes force a guy to cross his arms. It might give you just enough room to lock a Dead Orchard if your legs aren't long. It all really depends on the size of the guy in your guard.

    If you come to the conclusion that Dead Orchard is a no-go against your training partner, go Invisible Collar to Muddy Waters if you really like the high guard game with the shoulder locking.

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    If I can pull of the dead orchard that is a no brainer but sometimes I know when I'm in crack head that I won't be able to pull that off so I just stay with the pump and try to lock that shoulder. If I can dump you to spider web from there it a wrap not the most fancy transish super basic but never fails me. that pump game can definitely be developed to where youre just retarded strong from that crack head posish still working on it

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