Sorry, completely missed this thread. I set it up primarily from the turtle, as I learned it in Sambo. However I do also hit it from defending the double under pass. You really have to be ready for the pass and expect it coming. I essentialy shoot in butterlfies with my legs before they can elevate me hips, The I hook one of their elbows from the outside coming in, then come up to the back side position with my leg all ready threaded into their arm, then roll over the shoulder, block their head/upper body and sit up into the submission.
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