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Originally Posted by
Louis Ho
Nice breakdown. Isn't the Marcelo Guillotine more of a shallow hold on the neck as opposed to a deep hold, as Rener was showing?
Yes. It can be finished with the arm deeper but normally it's right on the sharp part of the forearm with the facing up.
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Originally Posted by
Jared Gammel
I haven't watched the gracie breakdown, but live, I thought he started Marcelo style and ended up finishing more of a McKenzietine.
Yes, he went from Darce, to Marcelotine, to McKenzitine
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Originally Posted by
danno
i was thinking the same thing Louis Ho.. and he made it sound like you have got to be bigger than the guy you are rolling with but im small and i land that guillotine ALL the time
Yea you don't have to be big to get the forearm over the back/elbow lift at all. It's (Marcelo's guillotine) the most effective and versatile guillotine there is.
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Originally Posted by
Randy Butler
It looked like the Marcelo guillotine to me also.
The choke Jones actually finished Bader with was the Pray guillotine (McKenzietine), but he started with a Darce, then to a Marcelotine first.
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